Class of 2024 SG Gavin Doty (NY) TRANSFERRING TO SYRACUSE (4/7/26)

[SU91]

Well Devo said today Betsey was around $800,000. Doty will provide more than he did in effort alone.

These numbers for these kids are insane. Nonsensical. Not faulting them, but I kind of find it sad these wastes of resources.

 

[35kcuse]

These numbers for these kids are insane. Nonsensical. Not faulting them, but I kind of find it sad these wastes of resources.

Question how sustainable it all is

 

[Roc44]

These numbers for these kids are insane. Nonsensical. Not faulting them, but I kind of find it sad these wastes of resources.

One million percent. Needs to change sad

 

[Doc5120]

Just a fyi for those that have been downplaying his ability and worth...Illinois wanted him bad and made a substantial offer. Whatever you think that offer was I'd double it and your probably in the ballpark. Kinda surprised he turned it down but that shows the character and type of kid he is.

I heard exactly this! I, too, could not believe the figure I was told.

 

[Niastri]

One million percent. Needs to change sad

So, you don't want the kids to be able to make any money? Do you think artists shouldn't be able to profit from their work? Engineers? Scientists?

Until five years ago, only old white guys got to make money off college sports, and a "certain type of fan" is angry that the players are now getting a share of the pie...

Is it just that change is hard, or do you actually believe the players don't deserve to share in profits?

 

[rrlbees]

So, you don't want the kids to be able to make any money? Do you think artists shouldn't be able to profit from their work? Engineers? Scientists?

Until five years ago, only old white guys got to make money off college sports, and a "certain type of fan" is angry that the players are now getting a share of the pie...

Is it just that change is hard, or do you actually believe the players don't deserve to share in profits?

Except NIL isn’t profits. nil is good. NIL bad.

 

[BEGood]

So, you don't want the kids to be able to make any money? Do you think artists shouldn't be able to profit from their work? Engineers? Scientists?

Until five years ago, only old white guys got to make money off college sports, and a "certain type of fan" is angry that the players are now getting a share of the pie...

Is it just that change is hard, or do you actually believe the players don't deserve to share in profits?

I hate this argument it’s dumb and lazy. Nobody disagrees they should make money but the way the system is now is dumb. All the money should be coming from the universities not universities asking fans and donors to fund their teams. It should not be relied on what school has the most donors that is just stupid.

 

[bnoro]

These numbers for these kids are insane. Nonsensical. Not faulting them, but I kind of find it sad these wastes of resources.

In a free market, players are worth what people are willing to pay. Capitalism baby!

 

[orangefog]

In a free market, players are worth what people are willing to pay. Capitalism baby!

This is such a weird situation. Because, the entity that benefits the most from the players doesn't even foot the bill. They pass it along to the fans. Or, maybe the entity that benefits the most IS the fans. It's just so out of whack. I miss when a $50 handshake was the extent of the cheating.

 

[bnoro]

This is such a weird situation. Because, the entity that benefits the most from the players doesn't even foot the bill. They pass it along to the fans. Or, maybe the entity that benefits the most IS the fans. It's just so out of whack. I miss when a $50 handshake was the extent of the cheating.

Sure, the system is terrible, like most current economic systems under late stage capitalism. The rich get richer, and the rest pay their money for the bread and circuses.

 

[BEGood]

This is such a weird situation. Because, the entity that benefits the most from the players doesn't even foot the bill. They pass it along to the fans. Or, maybe the entity that benefits the most IS the fans. It's just so out of whack. I miss when a $50 handshake was the extent of the cheating.

My issue is that these universities make millions and it’s us the fans and donors that cough up most of the money. How about the money these schools make from tickets and conference pay more. Us fans shouldn’t be finding it

 

[007]

My issue is that these universities make millions and it’s us the fans and donors that cough up most of the money. How about the money these schools make from tickets and conference pay more. Us fans shouldn’t be finding it

Do you understand that SU paid the players $20.5M this season?

 

[BEGood]

Do you understand that SU paid the players $20.5M this season?

Yes I do understand that. But they should pay all the nil. I find it dumb that a rich white dude can step in and pay for an entire team.

 

[orangefog]

Sure, the system is terrible, like most current economic systems under late stage capitalism. The rich get richer, and the rest pay their money for the bread and circuses.

We could take the deep dive into this, but this is not the place for it. It always helps when people can see through the fog (see what I did there?) and identify the ACTUAL issue(s).

 

[orangefog]

Do you understand that SU paid the players $20.5M this season?

Hold up, that is divided among ALL of the sports. AND, they have fundraisers to raise that money and offset what is actually paid BY the university, no?

 

[007]

Hold up, that is divided among ALL of the sports. AND, they have fundraisers to raise that money and offset what is actually paid BY the university, no?

Holding up here...The OP was talking about how the university should be the only one paying athletes in general. As we know, the university is forced to share revenue with the athletes. The allocation of those payments is up to the university. It is not split between "ALL of the sports" and there is no obligation to do so. You are correct about fund raising to off set some of the what they are obligated to pay. That portion is falling to the fans.

 

[BEGood]

Holding up here...The OP was talking about how the university should be the only one paying athletes in general. As we know, the university is forced to share revenue with the athletes. The allocation of those payments is up to the university. It is not split between "ALL of the sports" and there is no obligation to do so. You are correct about fund raising to off set some of the what they are obligated to pay. That portion is falling to the fans.

My biggest issues is that a millionaire donor can buy a team

 

[tptcuse]

My biggest issues is that a millionaire donor can buy a team

Unless it’s OUR millionaire donor.

 

[007]

My biggest issues is that a millionaire donor can buy a team

I hear you. Unfortunately, that is new reality.

 

[BEGood]

I hear you. Unfortunately, that is new reality.

That’s the part that needs to change. And I have hope it will soon.

 

[BEGood]

Unless it’s OUR millionaire donor.

No I don’t even like that. It waters down winning it.

 

[tptcuse]

No I don’t even like that. It waters down winning it.

You can’t win without it anymore. Maybe when it’s a group of millionaires it seems less off putting? Crazy times.

 

[orangefog]

Holding up here...The OP was talking about how the university should be the only one paying athletes in general. As we know, the university is forced to share revenue with the athletes. The allocation of those payments is up to the university. It is not split between "ALL of the sports" and there is no obligation to do so. You are correct about fund raising to off set some of the what they are obligated to pay. That portion is falling to the fans.

It IS at the discretion of each university to disperse the $20.5MM to whichever of ALL the sports they wish. And, I am not arguing with you, all of this just helps to point out what a jumbled mess all of this is. And, for me, it shows what an incredibly terrible job the NCAA has done at staying in front of all of this.

 

[DilemaCuse]

Back to Doty, what impressed me during the Duke game was how much he moved without the ball, never stopped. I asked myself, is he better than JJ already? Would he run circles around Kiyan?

 

[BEGood]

Back to Doty, what impressed me during the Duke game was how much he moved without the ball, never stopped. I asked myself, is he better than JJ already? Would he run circles around Kiyan?

I think this is what we lacked under red. We had guys like bell, kingz, Betsy and they barely moved off the ball. When your a shooter you need to be moving constantly and Doty gets that