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shafer was so stressed in that presser

Fire our entire staff & hire Nova's staff. Otherwise bring Marrone back ASAP! Plain & simple, Shafer is a very good DC, but he's a poor HC. The rah rah crap only goes so far.

I think you need to slow down a bit. Pump them breaks! It was not a great game but getting rid of the staff? They are a young staff. Still learning things. We are 1-0 and I think this was a shot across the bow for the staff that they are not where they need to be.

You want to see what our staff is like? Let's see how we rebound from a sub par showing!!!!!
 
It's a knee-jerk reaction, for sure. I don't know if my expectations were out of whack or what, but that was ugly - even with Hunt, no throws downfield, vanilla as could be, too much reliance on ineffective screens, all without an appreciably quicker tempo.

I'd like to watch the game a second time, but right now I'm hard-pressed to name one thing McDonald's doing better than last year (when he was a disaster and we needed Lester to essentially take over his job for the last few games).

You're really going to watch that again? WOW! You're stronger than I am.
 
Fire our entire staff & hire Nova's staff. Otherwise bring Marrone back ASAP! Plain & simple, Shafer is a very good DC, but he's a poor HC. The rah rah crap only goes so far.

Yeah, no... I am pessimistic about the season after the performance in the first game but that is a drastic overreaction. As bad as it was, it was a single game and one in which we actually won (whether that was deserved is another discussion). If the staff learn from their mistakes and make some changes, and win the next couple games, we will completely forget about this game.

It was a terrible first game but it is just that, one game. We under-performed but that does not mean we will the entire season. I'm as aggravated by the game as anyone but I am still thinking we can turn it around and this game will just have been a blunder we squeaked through. I do want to see some improvement by the staff though because I was underwhelmed and that's not unreasonable. Calling for them to fire the entire staff one game into the season is unreasonable though.

I still have faith, just quite a bit less than I did before the first game.
 
im willing to give the team a pass for the first game jitters and lack of tackling ability playing worst team in 2 weeks hopefully the score indicates that
 
I felt bad for Shafer during that press conference. He was very very stressed out.

I haven't had particularly high expectations for this team, but that was a disappointing performance even if you have low expectations.

I hope Shafer can handle adversity without serious damage to his health. He looked like he would have rather been just about anywhere but that press conference last night.
 
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I would be too if I just was life and death to beat an fbs team.
 
I think you need to slow down a bit. Pump them breaks! It was not a great game but getting rid of the staff? They are a young staff. Still learning things. We are 1-0 and I think this was a shot across the bow for the staff that they are not where they need to be.

You want to see what our staff is like? Let's see how we rebound from a sub par showing!!!!!

I completely understand that Shafer isn't going anywhere, but I'm not optimistic that our Program will succeed under his direction. I really liked Shafer as a DC, as his personality fit the position. I base my position on his inability to make in-game adjustments. He may get better at it, and he may not. The great ones are excellent at it, the poor ones are awful. In order for him to change, he's going to have to reign in his emotions. The great HC's have too see the big picture & focus. It's possible, but not as easy as it sounds. He looked physically & emotionally exhausted after the game last night. Exactly why great Coordinators don't always make great HC's. He's capable of keeping the program afloat, but this program needs to get to the next level or risk becoming irrelevant. Irrelevance in the ACC would be a kiss of death.
 
I completely understand that Shafer isn't going anywhere, but I'm not optimistic that our Program will succeed under his direction. I really liked Shafer as a DC, as his personality fit the position. I base my position on his inability to make in-game adjustments. He may get better at it, and he may not. The great ones are excellent at it, the poor ones are awful. In order for him to change, he's going to have to reign in his emotions. The great HC's have too see the big picture & focus. It's possible, but not as easy as it sounds. He looked physically & emotionally exhausted after the game last night. Exactly why great Coordinators don't always make great HC's. He's capable of keeping the program afloat, but this program needs to get to the next level or risk becoming irrelevant. Irrelevance in the ACC would be a kiss of death.

I understand what you are saying but really he hasn't had very long as a head coach so I'm willing to let the year play out.

As far as irrelevance I don't think it could be worse than being irrelevant in the Big East which we were. Plus look at Duke they climbed out of the bottom last year. Just need momentum and recruiting which I believe we are making head way on, pair that with the staff learning from mistakes or bad game plans. I hated the game last night but I can't at this point feel like we aren't trending upwards. Next game will be telling
 
I completely understand that Shafer isn't going anywhere, but I'm not optimistic that our Program will succeed under his direction. I really liked Shafer as a DC, as his personality fit the position. I base my position on his inability to make in-game adjustments. He may get better at it, and he may not. The great ones are excellent at it, the poor ones are awful. In order for him to change, he's going to have to reign in his emotions. The great HC's have too see the big picture & focus. It's possible, but not as easy as it sounds. He looked physically & emotionally exhausted after the game last night. Exactly why great Coordinators don't always make great HC's. He's capable of keeping the program afloat, but this program needs to get to the next level or risk becoming irrelevant. Irrelevance in the ACC would be a kiss of death.
I'm glad you have given up on him after 14 games as a head coach. Good lord
 
Hunt was wrong. Not justifiable at all...and if that is bad, that is nothing to the kind of stuff he's going to get now that scouting reports will say he's a hothead who can overreact.
Do you honestly, seriously, earnestly believe that if Hunt is in the mix to get drafted, that jab to an opponent after he gave Hunt a little cheap shot and pulled his helmet half off his head would cause teams to seriously downgrade him? Teaching moment here. He can't get caught in the moment. Team paid the price, he paid the price. If it happens again, worth commenting on. Oh, and btw, he will touch the ball nearly every offensive play this season. He will make more mistakes. He is starting his 10th or11th game ever. Have patience.
 
Do you honestly, seriously, earnestly believe that if Hunt is in the mix to get drafted, that jab to an opponent after he gave Hunt a little cheap shot and pulled his helmet half off his head would cause teams to seriously downgrade him? Teaching moment here. He can't get caught in the moment. Team paid the price, he paid the price. If it happens again, worth commenting on. Oh, and btw, he will touch the ball nearly every offensive play this season. He will make more mistakes. He is starting his 10th or11th game ever. Have patience.

Scouting reports from the other teams we play. At Syracuse. In college.
 
nova kid was trying to rip his helmet off after the play---ref overacted.
Every ref threw their flag on that play, well four of them so maybe not all, how can you possibly think one ref overreacted. On the replay it clearly shows him throwing a left hook to the Villanova players head, it matters not at all what that player did or did not do, it only matters that Hunt's response was not acceptable in any way, and that he was ejected for that punch which undeniably he did.
 
SUbear said:
Every ref threw their flag on that play, well four of them so maybe not all, how can you possibly think one ref overreacted. On the replay it clearly shows him throwing a left hook to the Villanova players head, it matters not at all what that player did or did not do, it only matters that Hunt's response was not acceptable in any way, and that he was ejected for that punch which undeniably he did.

First play by defender was cheap and a tad excessive, not a penalty. Hunts reaction was for sure a penalty and ejection.
 
Im not sure I would call it a punch, more of a shove/jab but he was stupid to put himself in that situation. guys throw jabs like that a dozen times a game but usually they do it to the chest, underhand its ok, over hand you get thrown out. by rule it says ejection, im not sure that its worthy of that type of penalty, its not as dangerous as a late hit and thats just a 15 yd penalty. now if he comes up from behind and sucker punches someone and they get hurt its far different. if they square off and throw roundhouses its different,
 
Im not sure I would call it a punch, more of a shove/jab but he was stupid to put himself in that situation. guys throw jabs like that a dozen times a game but usually they do it to the chest, underhand its ok, over hand you get thrown out. by rule it says ejection, im not sure that its worthy of that type of penalty, its not as dangerous as a late hit and thats just a 15 yd penalty. now if he comes up from behind and sucker punches someone and they get hurt its far different. if they square off and throw roundhouses its different,
It was not a jab it was a left hook and it connected with the Villanova players head. I have no way of gauging the power of that hook, but it does not matter. At least four refs saw it and felt it was a mandatory ejection for punching. As starting QB, and ostensibly a team leader, he must be in control of his actions and not make these stupid reactions, even under what he may think is a cheap shot. It is simply not acceptable for him to do this.
 
MadNY3 said:
Hunt was wrong. Not justifiable at all...and if that is bad, that is nothing to the kind of stuff he's going to get now that scouting reports will say he's a hothead who can overreact.

Nah. The Nova player raked his helmet. Reaction was totally understandable. Nova should have received a penalty.

Ref blew it.
 
Villanova's O put up a whopping 10 points in 60 minutes. Our starting QB got the zig in the 2nd quarter.

The lesson is don't have your starting QB punch anyone. Without that stupidity we win going away.

Now thank the football gods for that poor kid shanking a kick anyone in the stand could hit.
 
Nah. The Nova player raked his helmet. Reaction was totally understandable. Nova should have received a penalty.

Ref blew it.

Disagree.
 
Nah. The Nova player raked his helmet. Reaction was totally understandable. Nova should have received a penalty.

Ref blew it.
Both should have received penaltys.
 
I think I have come to grips with giving him a pass on this one. villanova was ready to play and quite frankly I didn't think this would be a steamroll, didn't it would be a shitshow though either. the guy obviously cares and I don't know if that gets us anywhere but it at least gets us further than a guy that doesn't give a .

Well said, homer - I agree, I'm giving him a pass on this one. Probably they were looking past nova a little but normally I'd be all over that but this time I can't blame them. Glad we squeaked by on this game, a W is a W.
 
shafer was very stressed, i was trying to ascertain what the primary reason was. obviously relieved re the win, but i also feel that he knows that the coaches failed in this one--and thats on him. from my perspective the players for the most part were very casual and arrogant, not physically tough, ---seems they maybe reading to much about how good they are--worst part is that they believe it---prior to proving it----i understand mcd calling plays that give wilson some confidence, but i did not see a ol or vaunted running game. bullough, is a total mystery to me ---i understand nothing about his scheme in this game.
 
Every ref threw their flag on that play, well four of them so maybe not all, how can you possibly think one ref overreacted. On the replay it clearly shows him throwing a left hook to the Villanova players head, it matters not at all what that player did or did not do, it only matters that Hunt's response was not acceptable in any way, and that he was ejected for that punch which undeniably he did.
Michael Graham was very surprised by Hunts ejection. Hunts ejection was warranted but the other kid should of been tossed as well. I hope this game will serve as a wakeup call that in college athletics you have to bring it every week no matter the opponent!
 

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