Shaky Potatoes Tracker

[DoctorBombay]

Yup...still waiting on the Rak, BMK, CJ, Grant, & Ennis tracker.
Indeed, why not go back in the archives & resurrect the Rautins, Southerland, Devo, Gmac, and Matt Roe trackers?
Oh wait...they never had one? Got it.

 

[anomander]

I believe we ended up getting a couple offensive rebound off his misses. He has guys flying out at him, if he is taking good shots it's fine. Defenses are all over him

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Do you have a tracker for lost defensive rebounds by each player today? Or a tracker for how many times CJ can shake and bake and turn the ball over? Maybe a tracker for balls that go off Baye's hands? Or a tracker for when Grant pirouette's into the lane out of control and comes up empty?

We won. It's a team game and they all contributed. Ennis was today's star and is the only thing that should stand out.

Funny thread. Always has to be some player.

This is really simple.

Saying that C.J. "Thickburger" Fair is averaging 2.9 turnovers per game is not a criticism.

Saying that a 1 to 2 assist to turnover ratio is terrible from your senior leader is a criticism.

Saying that Coleman is a 50% free throw shooter is not a criticism.

Saying that Coleman is a bad free shooter is a criticism.

Saying that Buss Patterson has taken 25 shots in 49 minutes of play is not a criticism.

Saying that Patterson chucks it up as soon as he gets in to the game is a criticism.

Some folks on the board are so eager to defend Cooney that they feel the need to respond to things that aren't criticisms as though they are criticisms.

Let's break it down -

Title of the post: Shaky Potatoes Tracker (not a criticism to be found in the title)

Post: After today's game against Pitt (not a criticism), Cooney has now made 11 of 45 three point attempts (not a criticism), a .244 clip (not a criticism), in ACC play (not a criticism).

On the season he is making 41% of his three point attempts (not a criticism).

And then we got to enjoy reading a bunch of posts that must have been in response to something else, since they all gave various defenses for Cooney. Because, remember, my post didn't have a single criticism of Cooney. I guess people want to believe that the mere existence of a post, that doesn't contain a single criticism, actually becomes a criticism thanks to its very existence.

I'm really surprised and a little disappointed that our board is so sensitive and irrational in this case.

 

[longislandcuse]

Interesting reactions in this thread.

Sensitive potatoes.

 

[Bayside44]

Some of you guys have no salt on your taters.

 

[two3zone]

I'm a huge Cooney backer but he's not doing what he was doing in the beginning of the year. He is taking horribly off balance shots, he is rushing even if nobody is near him and he has a half second more to compose himself, he's shooting even while being guarded well, and he is taking deeper shots. He needs to let the game come to him and stick with the shots he was taking in the beginning of the year. We don't need a Gmac, he doesn't need to take the same shots Gmac did while he played, we have a much better supporting cast and would rather see us work for a better shot than an off balance three. Cooney will be fine, he just needs to remember what brought him his most success.

 

[rrlbees]

This is really simple. Saying that C.J. "Thickburger" Fair is averaging 2.9 turnovers per game is not a criticism. Saying that a 1 to 2 assist to turnover ratio is terrible from your senior leader is a criticism. Saying that Coleman is a 50% free throw shooter is not a criticism. Saying that Coleman is a bad free shooter is a criticism. Saying that Buss Patterson has taken 25 shots in 49 minutes of play is not a criticism. Saying that Patterson chucks it up as soon as he gets in to the game is a criticism. Some folks on the board are so eager to defend Cooney that they feel the need to respond to things that aren't criticisms as though they are criticisms. Let's break it down - Title of the post: Shaky Potatoes Tracker (not a criticism to be found in the title) Post: After today's game against Pitt (not a criticism), Cooney has now made 11 of 45 three point attempts (not a criticism), a .244 clip (not a criticism), in ACC play (not a criticism). On the season he is making 41% of his three point attempts (not a criticism). And then we got to enjoy reading a bunch of posts that must have been in response to something else, since they all gave various defenses for Cooney. Because, remember, my post didn't have a single criticism of Cooney. I guess people want to believe that the mere existence of a post, that doesn't contain a single criticism, actually becomes a criticism thanks to its very existence. I'm really surprised and a little disappointed that our board is so sensitive and irrational in this case.

Don't worry, we get it. You're not a Cooney fan.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Don't worry, we get it. You're not a Cooney fan.

There is zero evidence to support that conclusion.

 

[kuethstheman]

The question about why you're choosing to single out Cooney is a good one. Even so, I'm worried. We won but without stellar shooting from Cooney, we 're not nearly the teams we need to be to continue this run.

Also, some of the defense of Cooney is spiteful and not rational. We all need to drop our agenda and be honest about what's really happening.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

The question about why you're choosing to single out Cooney is a good one.

He's considered by everyone to be our designated deep threat and its fun to say Shaky Potatoes.:noidea:

 

[kirbivore]

We all need to drop our agenda and be honest about what's really happening.

and I need a BJ from Christy Turlington

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7NxEj4A1Cg

 

[Cusefan0307]

Law of averages will even out again. He's had some rather subpar shooting games lately. He's still clearly better than last year, I expect he gets hot again and carries us through some big games. The week off should help him rest his legs a bit, as he's logged big minutes so far this year. Hey Stephen curry just went through a terrible three point shooting slump and he's suppose to be the best shooter in the world.

 

[Bornorange]

Last year Trevor's shot was way off. He had trouble hitting the barn. It was hard to watch.
This years he is in a slight slump but he is hitting the rim and his form is fine.

 

[newmexicuse]

I'm a huge Cooney backer but he's not doing what he was doing in the beginning of the year. He is taking horribly off balance shots, he is rushing even if nobody is near him and he has a half second more to compose himself, he's shooting even while being guarded well, and he is taking deeper shots. He needs to let the game come to him and stick with the shots he was taking in the beginning of the year. We don't need a Gmac, he doesn't need to take the same shots Gmac did while he played, we have a much better supporting cast and would rather see us work for a better shot than an off balance three. Cooney will be fine, he just needs to remember what brought him his most success.

I think you are at least somewhat correct.

My 2 cents - last season the game was too fast for him. This season at the beginning of the year he adjusted to that. However, now that the level of the competition has improved the game has again speeded up and he needs to adjust to this new higher and faster level of play.

Aside from his shooting, he also disappointed in another facet of his game. In his last good game he was very effective driving to the rim and also starting to drive and talking a pullup J. Against Pitt he made one bad drive where he got himself trapped against the baseline and got stuffed. That was it for him other than taking treys. He needs to expand what he tries to do to match his skill level. I want to see more of the pullup Js. I also want him to find driving lanes better. He has to at least try and score more than once a game other than trey attempts.

 

[rrlbees]

Law of averages will even out again. He's had some rather subpar shooting games lately. He's still clearly better than last year, I expect he gets hot again and carries us through some big games. The week off should help him rest his legs a bit, as he's logged big minutes so far this year. Hey Stephen curry just went through a terrible three point shooting slump and he's suppose to be the best shooter in the world.

Cooney's a better shooter. Curry's only shooting 39%.

 

[AZOrange]

Thanks for the stats OIG. That said, i still love the guy on the floor. Teams are wayyyy overplaying

 

[Sgt Cuse]

I am anxiously awaiting TC's next step. I was hoping it would be Pitt, seemed like he had a good strategy vs BC, and thought by doing other things his 3 pt % would go up. I have not expected consistent drives until next year, but seeing some now would be gravy.

I do not buy the idea that in-conference is any faster. The SOS says differently. But I also think we have seen JB is taking the in-conference quite seriously. He is treating the ACC in-conference every bit as seriously as he took the old BE in-conference.

TC can do it. But let's not ridicule those who have been watching for this as part of his progression.

On a different note, how does the box score indicate 2 for 8, all 3 pters. I swear I saw him go inside and get rejected.

 

[NineOneSeven]

Don't worry, we get it. You're not a Cooney fan.

Huh? Talk about overreaction.

 

[Cowtown]

Two points come immediately to mind. First, he's playing against better athletes than he was earlier in the year. Second, after about a dozen games were in, he's not surprising anyone anymore. Opposing coaching staffs have watched game film, and he's a primary target for their best perimeter defender right off the hop. And this will continue until Ennis penetrates (and scores) earlier, and someone makes an adjustment there. Not saying it should happen, just saying that's the way it is. And what the heck, we're winning the way it is.

Let's also consider Cooney's learning curve is still on the upward arc. A year and a half ago, he was in HS, and last year he sat behind a 4 year player and a lottery pick. These last 4-5 games have been pretty intense for all, let alone someone in his position. Is he rushing his shot? Yes, he appears to be. I'd like to see him fake the shot and drive more than fake and pass it around the perimeter. Over time it would give him a little more room, and I think he'll figure that out through the course of this year. I'm happy with his play and his development, and I'm happy JB appears to feel the same way.

 

[omniorange]

I am anxiously awaiting TC's next step. I was hoping it would be Pitt, seemed like he had a good strategy vs BC, and thought by doing other things his 3 pt % would go up. I have not expected consistent drives until next year, but seeing some now would be gravy.

I do not buy the idea that in-conference is any faster. The SOS says differently. But I also think we have seen JB is taking the in-conference quite seriously. He is treating the ACC in-conference every bit as seriously as he took the old BE in-conference.

TC can do it. But let's not ridicule those who have been watching for this as part of his progression.

On a different note, how does the box score indicate 2 for 8, all 3 pters. I swear I saw him go inside and get rejected.

I wondered about that and since Pitt was credited with zero blocks. But in the play-by-play they called it a turnover.

Cheers,
Neil

 

[OrangeSky]

Two points come immediately to mind. First, he's playing against better athletes than he was earlier in the year. Second, after about a dozen games were in, he's not surprising anyone anymore. Opposing coaching staffs have watched game film, and he's a primary target for their best perimeter defender right off the hop. And this will continue until Ennis penetrates (and scores) earlier, and someone makes an adjustment there. Not saying it should happen, just saying that's the way it is. And what the heck, we're winning the way it is.

Let's also consider Cooney's learning curve is still on the upward arc. A year and a half ago, he was in HS, and last year he sat behind a 4 year player and a lottery pick. These last 4-5 games have been pretty intense for all, let alone someone in his position. Is he rushing his shot? Yes, he appears to be. I'd like to see him fake the shot and drive more than fake and pass it around the perimeter. Over time it would give him a little more room, and I think he'll figure that out through the course of this year. I'm happy with his play and his development, and I'm happy JB appears to feel the same way.

I agree with this. He needs to let the game come to him and I think he'll be fine. The ACC play has been frenetic, and it takes some players longer than others to settle in.
My $00.02...

 

[rrlbees]

Huh? Talk about overreaction.

Huh? Follow the threads much?

The pay side we have a hater tracker.

 

[two3zone]

Two points come immediately to mind. First, he's playing against better athletes than he was earlier in the year. Second, after about a dozen games were in, he's not surprising anyone anymore. Opposing coaching staffs have watched game film, and he's a primary target for their best perimeter defender right off the hop. And this will continue until Ennis penetrates (and scores) earlier, and someone makes an adjustment there. Not saying it should happen, just saying that's the way it is. And what the heck, we're winning the way it is. Let's also consider Cooney's learning curve is still on the upward arc. A year and a half ago, he was in HS, and last year he sat behind a 4 year player and a lottery pick. These last 4-5 games have been pretty intense for all, let alone someone in his position. Is he rushing his shot? Yes, he appears to be. I'd like to see him fake the shot and drive more than fake and pass it around the perimeter. Over time it would give him a little more room, and I think he'll figure that out through the course of this year. I'm happy with his play and his development, and I'm happy JB appears to feel the same way.

Disagree, we played a harder schedule ooc than we have ic so far. He had no problem in Maui, no problem with nova. He's just not doing the same things he did earlier in the season.

 

[Cowtown]

Disagree, we played a harder schedule ooc than we have ic so far. He had no problem in Maui, no problem with nova. He's just not doing the same things he did earlier in the season.

You're entitled to your opinion.

 

[two3zone]

You're entitled to your opinion.

So UNC, BC Miami, VT, and Pitt are more athletic than Baylor, nova, St. John's, cal, and Indiana? It's not really an opinion that our ooc has been the stronger part of our schedule.