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On the recruiting board I couldn't help but notice that the topic of needing shooters for the upcoming '17 recruiting class and the fact that some here have pointed out that although Hamidou Diallo is a coveted player in that upcoming class, his shooting prowess... well, to put it nicely, is somewhat suspect. At the end of the day the team who scores the most wins the game and either you have a team with an adequate composition of players who can shoot or you have such an outstanding defensive team that you can win without prolific scoring and ergo, shooters.
It' also been pointed out that Diallo has epic athletic ability and there is plenty of video showing him throwing down dunks with a vengeance. Paul Harris was also a kid who had incredible athleticism and could jump out of the dome...although he did at times contribute significantly, he had many double doubles but was never what could be considered a good shooter or scorer. It's been no secret that we have had some recent teams who had, at times, and for stretches which seemed to painfully long, trouble scoring. There were games when it seemed there was a lid on the basket. This years team would seem to give us more shooting ability than we've put out on the floor in some time.
So my question is this: Which players in the Boeheim era were the best shooters. We've had many "shooters" but I'm not just talking about kids who put up an inordinate number of shots. I'm talking about kids who could be relied upon to put the ball through the basket consistently. I guess "shooters" can also be broken down into several categorizes. 1. High % in the paint guys who could get it done down low. 2.Great mid range guys who could do damage with the short jumper/ floater. 3. The area code specialists who could drain 3's and change a game with only about 5 or 6 shots. 4. Clutch shooters who had an unbelievable knack for hitting that big a$$ shot to win the game or keep you in it.
Looking back historically during the JB era the first name that stands out for me is Moten. I checked on Poetry in Moten and discovered that his career 3 pt. % was only 31.6 and although that's nothing to sneeze at it seemingly is lower that I would have expected. Shumpert clocks in at 37.8% and was 79.2 from the FT line. Shumpert seemed to not only shoot the 3 well but was also quite clutch. Carmelo was 33.7 for 3, .453 overall and .706 from the FT line. So his percentages were not astronomical but if "shooters" is at all synonymous with " scorers" his 22.2 points per game was only equaled by John Wallace 22.2 and eclipsed by Billy Owens 23.2 in the JB era.
High % in the paint guys. Hak was pretty darn good in the paint because most of his shots included monster dunks, some of which were just a spin and a step toward the hoop and it was over. His overall shooting % was 53.6 which seems quite good but for comparison Arinze career was .641 (wow, just wow) And when it comes to dunkers and leapers, Stevie Thomson was .639 career. Etan was at .600 and D. Coleman a respectable ( and I mean RESPECT) .568
You can't talk about long ball shooters without mentioning GMAC. He put up a ton of shots, in fact almost twice as many 3pt attempts than any other player in SU history, 1,131 treys. His career 3pt % was .354 . Shumpert was 2nd in attempts with 659 attempts and a .378 career 3pt %. Devo had the same 3pt. career shooting percentage. Another deadly shooterfrom 3 pt. land was Marius Janulis who posted a very respectable .399 from 3. Best of all 3 point shooters in the JB era is none other than Matt Roe who shot an amazing .433 from the arc and Greg Monroe who shot .439 although had many fewer attempts than most of the other aforementioned.
Although GMAC didn't have the highest 3 pt. percentage there is little argument that he wasn't the most clutch shooter when the game was on the line. His single handed march through the Big East Tournament and his 6 threes in the first half of the 2003 National Championship were clutch in getting JB and Syracuse their 1st modern National championship. His 43 points in the BYU game in post season play was another clutch shooting performance. He was both an streak shooter and most of those streaks came at "clutch" moments. From the free throw line he was unparalleled shooting .909 his freshman year and was the all time Big East Conference free throw shooter.
Southerland was heralded as a great 3 pt shooter and was streaky at times. Surprisingly Dirty is not in the top 10 in any of the 3 point shooting categories.
This years team has 3 or 4 players plenty capable of making 3 point shoots and shooting with great efficiency down low and mid range. Chances are that because of that it would be unlikely that anyone on this years team will set any single season record for shooting efficiency or volume. It's also likely that most of them will not be returning next year so it will be interesting to see we get than can step into the role of shooter/ scorer on next years team.
It' also been pointed out that Diallo has epic athletic ability and there is plenty of video showing him throwing down dunks with a vengeance. Paul Harris was also a kid who had incredible athleticism and could jump out of the dome...although he did at times contribute significantly, he had many double doubles but was never what could be considered a good shooter or scorer. It's been no secret that we have had some recent teams who had, at times, and for stretches which seemed to painfully long, trouble scoring. There were games when it seemed there was a lid on the basket. This years team would seem to give us more shooting ability than we've put out on the floor in some time.
So my question is this: Which players in the Boeheim era were the best shooters. We've had many "shooters" but I'm not just talking about kids who put up an inordinate number of shots. I'm talking about kids who could be relied upon to put the ball through the basket consistently. I guess "shooters" can also be broken down into several categorizes. 1. High % in the paint guys who could get it done down low. 2.Great mid range guys who could do damage with the short jumper/ floater. 3. The area code specialists who could drain 3's and change a game with only about 5 or 6 shots. 4. Clutch shooters who had an unbelievable knack for hitting that big a$$ shot to win the game or keep you in it.
Looking back historically during the JB era the first name that stands out for me is Moten. I checked on Poetry in Moten and discovered that his career 3 pt. % was only 31.6 and although that's nothing to sneeze at it seemingly is lower that I would have expected. Shumpert clocks in at 37.8% and was 79.2 from the FT line. Shumpert seemed to not only shoot the 3 well but was also quite clutch. Carmelo was 33.7 for 3, .453 overall and .706 from the FT line. So his percentages were not astronomical but if "shooters" is at all synonymous with " scorers" his 22.2 points per game was only equaled by John Wallace 22.2 and eclipsed by Billy Owens 23.2 in the JB era.
High % in the paint guys. Hak was pretty darn good in the paint because most of his shots included monster dunks, some of which were just a spin and a step toward the hoop and it was over. His overall shooting % was 53.6 which seems quite good but for comparison Arinze career was .641 (wow, just wow) And when it comes to dunkers and leapers, Stevie Thomson was .639 career. Etan was at .600 and D. Coleman a respectable ( and I mean RESPECT) .568
You can't talk about long ball shooters without mentioning GMAC. He put up a ton of shots, in fact almost twice as many 3pt attempts than any other player in SU history, 1,131 treys. His career 3pt % was .354 . Shumpert was 2nd in attempts with 659 attempts and a .378 career 3pt %. Devo had the same 3pt. career shooting percentage. Another deadly shooterfrom 3 pt. land was Marius Janulis who posted a very respectable .399 from 3. Best of all 3 point shooters in the JB era is none other than Matt Roe who shot an amazing .433 from the arc and Greg Monroe who shot .439 although had many fewer attempts than most of the other aforementioned.
Although GMAC didn't have the highest 3 pt. percentage there is little argument that he wasn't the most clutch shooter when the game was on the line. His single handed march through the Big East Tournament and his 6 threes in the first half of the 2003 National Championship were clutch in getting JB and Syracuse their 1st modern National championship. His 43 points in the BYU game in post season play was another clutch shooting performance. He was both an streak shooter and most of those streaks came at "clutch" moments. From the free throw line he was unparalleled shooting .909 his freshman year and was the all time Big East Conference free throw shooter.
Southerland was heralded as a great 3 pt shooter and was streaky at times. Surprisingly Dirty is not in the top 10 in any of the 3 point shooting categories.
This years team has 3 or 4 players plenty capable of making 3 point shoots and shooting with great efficiency down low and mid range. Chances are that because of that it would be unlikely that anyone on this years team will set any single season record for shooting efficiency or volume. It's also likely that most of them will not be returning next year so it will be interesting to see we get than can step into the role of shooter/ scorer on next years team.
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