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Shots fired! Anybody hear JB today with Brent Axe?

He said the same thing at the post game presser following the Dayton win.
 
billsin01 said:
i don't get why he cares about stuff like this so much ... unless of course he loves the motivational value. I guess that's why.
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I haven't listened to it but I'm pretty sure Jimmy was responding to a question.
 
billsin01 said:
i don't get why he cares about stuff like this so much ... unless of course he loves the motivational value. I guess that's why.
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What you said...and recruiting...cant ever underestimate how cutthroat /competitive recruiting battles are. I could be wrong but i truly believe the difference between SU being left out of tourney vs making sweet 16 will have a very real effect on recruiting. If i was a coach the last thing i would want a competing coach/booster to say is "they never should have made the tourney" and then have that coach be literally correct or being able to back it up with us losing in first round. Especially when we werent in tourney last year.

Edit- ie just imagine what SU and IU might look like this year if Bryant had chosen SU over IU. ...The Cuse is doing fine but Bryant was probably the difference in IU getting by UK...
 
Capt. Tuttle said:
He said nobody with any credibility would say SU didn't belong in the tournament.
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Responded to question and emphasized "nobody with any credibility," thereby with one fell swoop dismissing most of the so-called experts who went against us. He was very calm and confident. My take is that the negative opinions bother him but he took the high road, and that's the coach I like to see!
 
bballbeadle said:
Responded to question and emphasized "nobody with any credibility," thereby with one fell swoop dismissing most of the so-called experts who went against us. He was very calm and confident. My take is that the negative opinions bother him but he took the high road, and that's the coach I like to see!
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I'm sure those negative opinions bother him. He's a tenacious competitor with an unwavering belief in himself, and he even manages to get some jabs in when travelling along the high road. I like that.
 
TheCusian said:
Don't misinterpret "being right" and competitive with thin skin. He's not wrong in this case. And why let the dudes who are wrong off the hook?
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He's isn't always right. The people he's talking about aren't always wrong . He sometimes finds insult where there is none. He brings up minor slights often enough that it seems clear that he can't let them go.
 
kuethstheman said:
He's isn't always right. The people he's talking about aren't always wrong . He sometimes finds insult where there is none. He brings up minor slights often enough that it seems clear that he can't let them go.
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Is that a bad thing though? It impacts his comments but doesn't seem to impact his work or behavior.
 
I think what eats at JB is, rightly or wrongly, his reputation has suffered in some circles from winning only one NC in forty years of heading an "elite" program. And, many have stated that his team's have tended to under-perform in the tourney, nor has the program sent many top-tier players to the association during his tenure. Now, when one of his team's is over achieving, the knock is the team didn't deserve to be in the tournament in the first place, and their advancement is more a matter of luck with others doing the heavy lifting by knocking off a higher seed for them. Not to get ahead of myself here, but just imagine if the stars were to align and we actually beat the probabilities and win the NC. It won't convince or silence a single one of the doubters and haters. We would just be bastard champions in their eyes- totally illegitimate. Screw em, JB. In the words of Al Davis, 'Just win, baby!'
 
br801 said:
. . . he even manages to get some jabs in when travelling along the high road. I like that.
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This is exactly right. He's taking a shot at Gottlieb without calling him out directly. As Newhouser pointed out, he did the same post Dayton. I believe for the same reason. He has said many times over the years that he thinks it's unfair that reporters can say or write anything they want without consequence. When he feels it's merited, JB has always fired back at the first opportunity. I love him for it.
 
kuethstheman said:
He's isn't always right. The people he's talking about aren't always wrong . He sometimes finds insult where there is none. He brings up minor slights often enough that it seems clear that he can't let them go.
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I really believe he is talking to one guy.
 
dasher said:
I really believe he is talking to one guy.
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I think you're right. I'm just saying that he is thin-skinned in general. It's been on display for 40 years.

I've enjoyed his shots at Gottlieb but a thicker-skinned person would have let it go by now.
 
br801 said:
Don't hold your breath. Carrying this on is good for his business.
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By no means do I think he ever will. It was good for business early on, as it was an easy way to draw attention to himself, but at this point he just comes off as spiteful. When a peer from a rival network is calling you out as a hater, it hurts your credibility. And that's bad for business.
 
kuethstheman said:
He's isn't always right. The people he's talking about aren't always wrong . He sometimes finds insult where there is none. He brings up minor slights often enough that it seems clear that he can't let them go.
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I said "in this case" not "he's never been wrong" ...

I'm not saying that he's perfect with the media. He's not. He will never be. But he is right a lot. He know's more than what, 98% of reporters/pundits?

"Thin skin" implies a severe lack of confidence - so much so that he needs to respond to every quip . I don't think that's JB. I think he's fiercely loyal and uber-competitive. It's worth thinking about what the opposite of that is like in your HC. I prefer a confident, competitive, really smart guy (JB, Babers) over the opposite any day.
 
kuethstheman said:
I think you're right. I'm just saying that he is thin-skinned in general. It's been on display for 40 years.

I've enjoyed his shots at Gottlieb but a thicker-skinned person would have let it go by now.
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It's literally all anyone is talking about re: our run. He's asked the question at every presser. He should lay down?
 
TheCusian said:
I said "in this case" not "he's never been wrong" ...

I'm not saying that he's perfect with the media. He's not. He will never be. But he is right a lot. He know's more than what, 98% of reporters/pundits?

"Thin skin" implies a severe lack of confidence - so much so that he needs to respond to every quip . I don't think that's JB. I think he's fiercely loyal and uber-competitive. It's worth thinking about what the opposite of that is like in your HC. I prefer a confident, competitive, really smart guy (JB, Babers) over the opposite any day.
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You don't think he needs to respond to every quip?

Look I love JB. But he is the very personification of thin-skinned.
 
Day2 said:
By no means do I think he ever will. It was good for business early on, as it was an easy way to draw attention to himself, but at this point he just comes off as spiteful. When a peer from a rival network is calling you out as a hater, it hurts your credibility. And that's bad for business.
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He probably only comes off as spiteful to SU fans and people who already disliked him. And I hardly think being called out by Jay Williams will damage his credibility. He's once again drawn attention to himself with these comments about SU. Easy pickings, as long as JB is here to take the bait.
 
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