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Message: [QUOTE="cliftonparksufan, post: 3962574, member: 9"] I don't think there is an actual number of wins for Babers. I think it depends on the most influential boosters and how they feel the direction of the program is going. Remember P got fired at a bowl game. Take It for what it's worth, I played golf with a Yukon grad a week ago. He had a very high opinion of Babers as well. People do like him and I think it's surprising to many of us of the trajectory of Baber's career. But eventually it will come down to numbers. Whether it is number of wins, the number of fannies in the seats, the number of satisfied or dissatisfied parents and/or boosters, the number of quality recruits. Hopefully Babers rights the ship. I think we would all be good with that. [/QUOTE]