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[44doubledees]

I see Rak as potentially sticking on an NBA roster he certainly has the potential to provide a back up PF option. I see his ceiling as a Brendan Bass type if he can develop the 15 footer consistently. Hey if Chuck Hayes can be a rotation player for the 13-2 Raps anything is possible with Rakeem.

 

[jekelish]

If Roc has a John Wallace type senior year is the only way I see him getting drafted. The Orange would have to at least make it to the final four. That's a pretty tall order for this team. But in strange ways this team resembles the 2002-2003 team. Maybe CMac is not as good as Anthony and maybe KJ2 is not as good as GMac but this team has a lot decent players who could contribute at the end of the season. What was amazing about the 2002-2003 run is every game leading up to the final game it seemed like some secondary player would step up and have a career game. This could be that kind of year.

But the only player on the team even remotely capable of having a Wallace type year is McCullough. The difference between Rak and JDub is that JDub was probably a little taller, and VASTLY more skilled. Honestly, Rak is basically a more athletic Otis Hill with a little worse footwork in the post.

 

[AlaskaSU]

This years Rak is a whole different animal than prior versions. It is night and day, He is going to hold his own against Okafor and other big names and this will garner serious NBA draft attention. A whole host of his stats: scoring, shooting percentage, rebounding and blocked shots will be favorable to other bigs. As a PF he will need to increase his range but will not get that opportunity in our system. He will have to show it when he works out for teams. He is a smart kid and knows what he has to do. I would not be so quick to write him off. He has PF quickness. Needs to expand his skills. Give him a chance.

 

[Eric15]

As a PF he will need to increase his range but will not get that opportunity in our system.

How come? Our offense is starved for production. If Boeheim thought Rak could consistently make an elbow jumper (like say, Damone Brown could) why wouldn't he give Rak the green light and work it into our offensive scheme?

 

[Dave85]

But the only player on the team even remotely capable of having a Wallace type year is McCullough. The difference between Rak and JDub is that JDub was probably a little taller, and VASTLY more skilled. Honestly, Rak is basically a more athletic Otis Hill with a little worse footwork in the post.

I meant in terms of getting notice not so much in terms of play. I think the only way Rak gets drafted will require the Orange making a deep tournament run. I think when the 94-95 team made it to the championship game JW's stock skyrocketed. I think Rak needs a big stage with a one or two monster games just to get on the NBA drafting radar. That's my thinking.

 

[Dave85]

How come? Our offense is starved for production. If Boeheim thought Rak could consistently make an elbow jumper (like say, Damone Brown could) why wouldn't he give Rak the green light and work it into our offensive scheme?

I would like to see Rak and CMac do a better job kicking the ball out for 15 foot jump shots. Lately though it seems like Rak has been having some better post moves. But it's not clear how effective his post moves will be against tougher competition.

 

[jekelish]

I meant in terms of getting notice not so much in terms of play. I think the only way Rak gets drafted will require the Orange making a deep tournament run. I think when the 94-95 team made it to the championship game JW's stock skyrocketed. I think Rak needs a big stage with a one or two monster games just to get on the NBA drafting radar. That's my thinking.

There's a big difference, still. Yes, that helped Wallace get attention, but he had also almost gone pro as a junior and was a second team All-America his senior year, so it's not like making a run was the ONLY thing that got him noticed. Dude scored more than 800 points that season, if I'm not mistaken.

EDIT: Nostalgia for Wallace almost going pro. I'm pretty sure I saw him and JB at the start of their conversation about him deciding to return to SU. I was at the SU basketball camp, and we were at our mid-day lecture thing where they brought in a guest speaker to teach us about hoops, and I look over at the big door near the entrance to the locker rooms, and there's John Wallace, casually leaning against that big garage door. He looked so freaking tall, by the way. Anyway, Boeheim sees him, stands up, and moseys on over to have a chat. About 30 seconds after he gets over and starts to talk to him, they head back to the locker room. I believe it was the very next day that Wallace announced he would be coming back to SU, if I'm remembering correctly.

It was awesome. Out of all the things that happened that week, my only time at that camp (honestly, I didn't really like it - I preferred smaller camps where you get a lot more one on one coaching), that was the thing that stuck out the most for me. That, and the fact that we weren't allowed to go down to the Dome after hours to watch the players play pickup against the camp counselors. That was annoying.

 

[EastCoast2]

I see Rak as potentially sticking on an NBA roster he certainly has the potential to provide a back up PF option. I see his ceiling as a Brendan Bass type if he can develop the 15 footer consistently. Hey if Chuck Hayes can be a rotation player for the 13-2 Raps anything is possible with Rakeem.

Gotta respectfully disagree here. Brandon Bass is a much, much, much better offensive player. He can dribble and consistently hit a jumper. Rak can not.

 

[Madbiker]

Very few seniors get drafted. The NBA would rather draft kids out of high school who have "potential" than old over the hill 22-23 year olds who have actually worked to improve their skills. Can you tell I hate the NBA and their idiotic business model?

 

[Digger]

I meant in terms of getting notice not so much in terms of play. I think the only way Rak gets drafted will require the Orange making a deep tournament run. I think when the 94-95 team made it to the championship game JW's stock skyrocketed. I think Rak needs a big stage with a one or two monster games just to get on the NBA drafting radar. That's my thinking.

95-96 team

 

[richmondcuse03]

if mookie watkins can play a few minutes, then Rak certainly can.

 

[cuseclappy]

Very few seniors get drafted. The NBA would rather draft kids out of high school who have "potential" than old over the hill 22-23 year olds who have actually worked to improve their skills. Can you tell I hate the NBA and their idiotic business model?

also to add onto this.. mid to late 2nd round picks these days are foreign guys who will never ever come to the nba. but teams draft these guys to avoid having to bring them over and use a pick

rak will latch on to someone in the summer league and have a shot there. if he makes the nba.. awesome. if not, thank you for 4 years at su and he will be fine over seas

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

He is gonna be drafted. Prob in the second round (Mid to Late)

So, That would make him an NBA player.

Making a team will make him an NBA player.
Len Bias was not an NBA player. NBA ability, yes.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I meant in terms of getting notice not so much in terms of play. I think the only way Rak gets drafted will require the Orange making a deep tournament run. I think when the 94-95 team made it to the championship game JW's stock skyrocketed. I think Rak needs a big stage with a one or two monster games just to get on the NBA drafting radar. That's my thinking.

John Wallace's draft staus did not change at all. He was projected late teens early 20's after his Jr year, and that is where he went. NCAA tournaments have little to do with draft stock, nor should it.

 

[AlaskaSU]

I meant in terms of getting notice not so much in terms of play. I think the only way Rak gets drafted will require the Orange making a deep tournament run. I think when the 94-95 team made it to the championship game JW's stock skyrocketed. I think Rak needs a big stage with a one or two monster games just to get on the NBA drafting radar. That's my thinking.

He is already projected to go at #41, and it is a lock that his stock will go up. http://www.nbadraft.net/2015mock_draft

 

[realorange]

Making a team will make him an NBA player.
Len Bias was not an NBA player. NBA ability, yes.

Pretty tasteless example. Oh Lord

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Pretty tasteless example. Oh Lord

Not really. Proves the point.

 

[HOFCeluck]

I think CMac will be more ready than TE. I still think TE made a big mistake. He never looked like a NBA player in my opinion. I never thought TE was a one-and-done player. One and done is great. But that phrase should only apply to college not the NBA. Take Kris Joseph for example. I thought KJoe was a terrific college player. When he went to the NBA he really bulked up on the muscles. I thought holy cow nothing will stop him. He turned out to be a below average NBA player. I think TE will have a tough time getting out of the D-leagues. He really needed one more year in college. The big dollar contract would have been there this year also. He probably would have gone higher up in the draft. I don't believe in the what-if-he-got-hurt argument. He could also get hurt in the D-league. The problem TE is going to have now is a marketing one. Now that he's in the d-league he will have to work much harder to get noticed.

CMac on the hand I think will be a terrific NBA player from the get-go. He reminds me a lot of Carmelo Anthony as a freshmen. I am pretty sure CMac is gone after this season. This will open up a scholarship for Bryant.

if Ennis got hurt in the D league, at least he already has a contract.

And while I inow it's far from any point you're trying to make, how does any Syracuse fan forget that Wallace was a senior in 1996?

 

[Briancuse]

Not shocked, the kid is a stud, just a shame that we can't have him in a year when we are a final four contender.

 

[Briancuse]

if Ennis got hurt in the D league, at least he already has a contract.

And while I inow it's far from any point you're trying to make, how does any Syracuse fan forget that Wallace was a senior in 1996?

Hey if your only goal is to earn one nba contract, then all the more power to you.

 

[two3zone]

Not shocked, the kid is a stud, just a shame that we can't have him in a year when we are a final four contender.

Does Richardson really make us a FF contender after losing McCullough?

We're losing Rak too.

 

[Briancuse]

Does Richardson really make us a FF contender after losing McCullough?

We're losing Rak too.

No, I am just saying that its a shame that he isn't on a better team, like if Ennis and Grant had come back.

 

[HOFCeluck]

Hey if your only goal is to earn one nba contract, then all the more power to you.

Well, you were the one who said he could hurt in the D league. Which is true, but if he gets hurt there at least he has a 3.2 million dollar contract. He wouldn't have that here.

 

[two3zone]

No, I am just saying that its a shame that he isn't on a better team, like if Ennis and Grant had come back.

You can say that every year though. What do we do with a returning Dion when we made it to the final four?

We probably lose McCullough and lose Rak.

Next year could be scarier than this year, nobody knows.

 

[Briancuse]

Well, you were the one who said he could hurt in the D league. Which is true, but if he gets hurt there at least he has a 3.2 million dollar contract. He wouldn't have that here.

I didn't say that he could get hurt in the d-league, obviously he could, but it wasn't me who said it.If your goal is to earn that one nba contract, then that's fine, it wouldn't be mine, but if that's his, that is fine.