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Message: [QUOTE="nzm136, post: 3073290, member: 2531"] Penn State is relevant, unlike Rutgers, and they’re one of our most played opponents (71 games), unlike Clemson. They’re also 4 hours away (driving on Pennsyltucky highways) from the Dome, meaning our fan bases touch each other and the schools recruit athletes and students against each other. Clemson, on the other hand, is about a 4 hour plane ride, and Rutgers doesn’t have fans in appreciable numbers in any sport. The two situations aren’t even remotely similar. **Speaking to Miami because I left that out of my reply... everyone had an obsession with Miami back in the day. They were like Saban’s Alabama teams, only with game-changing attitude. Neither Clemson nor Rutgers accurately approximates that kind of environment. [/QUOTE] Rutgers, who cares. Here's why PSU, Miami, and now Clemson are "obsessions", they were/are the best teams SU plays every year. They are the measuring stick. Get it. [/QUOTE] That’s a stupid reason to obsess, it’s wrong to think that SU-Miami and SU-PSU were purely driven by Miami/PSU being good, and the resulting obsession from that mentality is bizarre. If your theory is that there is no difference between PSU/Miami of the pre-90’s and 90’s, and Clemson, then you’re missing a material amount of context. Hating Miami made sense. Hating PSU made sense. Obsessing over Clemson is like obsessing over a high school crush. It’s kind of pathetic, which is why it’s bizarre. What if FSU got good again, and Clemson fell off? Should we then tape new pictures in our locker? Seriously though, if being good and playing consistently are your two criteria, then what differentiates you from Rutgers fans obsess over Michigan, Penn State, Michigan State, and Ohio State? Or UK fans obsessing over Florida and Georgia? Or KU fans obsessing over Texas and Oklahoma? I think that we can all agree that RU’s relationship with Ohio State is in name at best. RU cashed Ohio State’s checks, RU fans proudly advertise the idea that the two schools are the same, Ohio State tries to forget that the Scarlet Knights exist, and the rest of the world thinks guys like RutgersAl are ...off. [/QUOTE]

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