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Six Topics the NCAA Rules Committee Could (or Should) Discuss as 2024 Meeting Begins

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1. Tweaks to Instant Replay​

How did instant replay go in Year One? Certainly there was no play as drastic and embarrassing as the Duke-Penn State play, but implementation wasn’t without some confusion and controversy.

McCabe Millon’s goal vs. Johns Hopkins in the NCAA Quarterfinals might have gotten the most attention about the implementation of replay review, but another play with less than four minutes to play in that game might be more noteworthy in terms of the mechanics of the replay. A Joey Terenzi shot with four seconds on the shot clock was reviewed to see if Johns Hopkins goalie Chayse Ierlan deflected it over the crossbar, thus resetting the clock. Just two weeks earlier in the Big East Tournament, a Georgetown shot in overtime triggered a shot clock reset. Replay showed it should not have been called that way, but the refs there said it was not a reviewable play.

The difference in how these situations were handled can likely be chalked up to Year One growing pains, but certainly some clarity on which plays are and are not reviewable needs assessment.

A few other aspects of the replay worth discussion:

Whether or not coaches should be able to use a challenge with less than four minutes or in OT if they still have a timeout.

It is unlikely for anything beyond the NCAA Tournament, or even Championship Weekend when better camera angles exist, but is there a benefit to taking the on-field referees out of the mix? For the NCAA Tournament, could a central replay review exist to make decisions so the on-site referees aren’t involved in affirming or overturning their own call.



2. Face-Off Changes​

One of the most divisive stories of the offseason was the discussions around the face-offs at the annual IMCLA Convention. There, the coaches discussed shortening the shot clock to 60 seconds from 80 after the face-off. This would be a similar change to what the Premier Lacrosse League implemented last year — dropping from 52 seconds to 32 after a face-off win. That changed the whole tenor of face-offs in the league, causing some teams to abandon dressing a face-off specialist altogether.

More drastic measures were posed as well, including eliminating the clamp altogether.

Face-off specialists surely have grown tired of the annual attention on their position at the Rules Committee meetings. One thing leaders at the position have been clamoring for is a return of the physical set from officials, which went away post-COVID.


3. Plays Around the Crease​

It doesn’t seem likely that the Committee will eliminate the goalmouth or the dive altogether, but it’s also nearly impossible to think a room full of people dedicated to shaping the sport’s rules would not come out with some sort of additional guidance around the crease.

4. Sportsmanship, Communication with Officials​

There was quite a bit of confusion in early-April’s Cornell vs. Syracuse game. Syracuse offensive coordinator Pat March was ejected from the game after he made contact with the referee when disputing a call.

There is a lot to unpack in what was a unique situation, but the Committee can address some actionable items:

  • What is the role of an assistant coach when interacting with refs — if any? Should all communication with refs be filtered through only the head coach?
  • Is there an appropriate warning process before expulsion for verbal altercations between referees and any members of the coaching staff?
  • If a coach is expelled, what is the appeals process? Syracuse coach Gary Gait said in the week after the Cornell game that he was dismayed by the lack of clarity around appeal as March was suspended for the following game, as well.
Generally, sportsmanship was a point of emphasis last year and detailed in Page 10 of the official rulebook. “Image of the sport is at risk,” it said related to pre- and postgame issues, going onto the field of play during live play.

There is also the issue of officials assigning and conflicts of interest that were brought up after that Cornell-Syracuse game; those issues likely lie under the purview of the referees’ association.

5. Tweaks to Non-Releasable Penalties for Hits to the Head​

In the early 2010s, the Rules Committee took significant steps to reduce the frequency of significant body checks and hits to the head in an effort to make the sport safer in the face of growing concerns about the severity of concussions to athletes’ longterm health. While that reaction was comparatively swift and successful, it was about a decade before the Committee readdressed the issue.

Again, the implementation was viewed as significant, adding three tiers of locked-in penalties for hits to the head. Additionally, this implementation was part of the expanded video review as officials were allowed to head to the video board to confirm whether their adjudication was appropriate. Again, there doesn’t seem to be much consensus around changes that should be made to the system, but it wouldn’t be surprising to see the Committee make tweaks to streamline the process.

6. Shooting from Defensive Zone​

The 10-man ride — utilizing the goalie to cover an offensive player while the opposing team clears, freeing up an additional defender in the middle of the field — has proliferated since the implementation of the shot clock. Along with the 10-man ride, defenders shooting from their own end of the field has proliferated, as well, because the net is open and, if an clearing player is under pressure and a “failure to advance” call is impending, giving a teammate the chance to back-up the shot and retain possession is about as good of an outcome as possible.

It’s produced some highlight-reel 70- and 80-yard goals, but also raised questions as to whether such a shot is in the spirit of the rule. Put another way, such a shot bails out the clearing team and prevents the riding team from benefiting from doing its job well.

Asked simply: should a shot from the defensive end of the field (or within the clearing team's own restraining box) be able to be backed up to retain possession?
 
For replays for playoffs n chips in todays world how there is only two angles (neither of them close enough to goal or inside goal) to determine some plays. In 2024 no reason can’t be multiple angles or cameras so refs or reviews can see from all diff angles to help make right calls. Also let’s just stop with the faceoffs now really. Been changing it so much and has not done much to balance the field. Some guys are just better that’s sports that life. So let’s just call it even n move on. If really trying to level it completely but keep it then think best can do is pitch count. No one person can take more then 10 in a game or more then 3-4 in row or something. Don’t think either will help as dudes gonna still dominate. Don’t see diff of a dominate fogo vs a dominate Defender or even goalie. Why punish someone who clearly is top at their spot don’t punish a goalie saving everything do ya? Do ya make rule he can’t move for 2seconds after ball is released? Or dominate defender or offense guy? No so it is what it is leave it alone now.
 
For goalmouth if gonna keep it think ya need to least have few things in place. One being if ball already in net n shooting player slides 3 feet which then his glove only ends up touching the line way after ball in net then it’s good goal(leo vs maryland) Think it’s one thing to completely land in it n another to have something just barely touch the line but never crossing. Also let refs review to see if contact was made causing player to goalmouth even if wasn’t called so on field. Whole point of rules is to make the game 1.better 2. safer 3. (can’t think of right word at time) more free flowing or efficient. If a rule doesn’t do any of those things almost gotta say then don’t bother with that rule.

Also think need to hold refs accountable for poor calls or bad calls. Cornell/syracuse Denver/cuse game were way to many no calls that clearly should been called or even ref instigating situation more then it was but had more power . So have standard for refs if don’t do their job at that standard then bye bye to that ref. Also lacrosse is a contacted sport sometimes a bad looking hit can be completely legal even if dude got jacked up. If looks bad n truely not sure if was legal (not just cause looked hard hit but actually illegal hit) even if not to head maby review it or maby add another ref to purposely look for hits even if in booth n watching replay to report down asap. I don’t know this game as been played for years n years n feels everything been done lately is trying to make it not what it is or softer. There’s reason why boys can hit and girls can’t.
 
4. Sportsmanship, Communication with Officials
There was quite a bit of confusion in early-April’s Cornell vs. Syracuse game. Syracuse offensive coordinator Pat March was ejected from the game after he made contact with the referee when disputing a call.

There is a lot to unpack in what was a unique situation, but the Committee can address some actionable items:

  • What is the role of an assistant coach when interacting with refs — if any? Should all communication with refs be filtered through only the head coach?
  • Is there an appropriate warning process before expulsion for verbal altercations between referees and any members of the coaching staff?
  • If a coach is expelled, what is the appeals process? Syracuse coach Gary Gait said in the week after the Cornell game that he was dismayed by the lack of clarity around appeal as March was suspended for the following game, as well.
Generally, sportsmanship was a point of emphasis last year and detailed in Page 10 of the official rulebook. “Image of the sport is at risk,” it said related to pre- and postgame issues, going onto the field of play during live play.

There is also the issue of officials assigning and conflicts of interest that were brought up after that Cornell-Syracuse game; those issues likely lie under the purview of the referees’ association.
Hey I got one more bullet point here: - Should a coach be penalized for contact with the ref if the freaking ref initiates the freaking contact by getting right up in his freaking face?

Jokes aside glad they are acknowledging this incident. Unfathomable levels of BS.
 

1. Tweaks to Instant Replay​

How did instant replay go in Year One? Certainly there was no play as drastic and embarrassing as the Duke-Penn State play, but implementation wasn’t without some confusion and controversy.

McCabe Millon’s goal vs. Johns Hopkins in the NCAA Quarterfinals might have gotten the most attention about the implementation of replay review, but another play with less than four minutes to play in that game might be more noteworthy in terms of the mechanics of the replay. A Joey Terenzi shot with four seconds on the shot clock was reviewed to see if Johns Hopkins goalie Chayse Ierlan deflected it over the crossbar, thus resetting the clock. Just two weeks earlier in the Big East Tournament, a Georgetown shot in overtime triggered a shot clock reset. Replay showed it should not have been called that way, but the refs there said it was not a reviewable play.

The difference in how these situations were handled can likely be chalked up to Year One growing pains, but certainly some clarity on which plays are and are not reviewable needs assessment.

A few other aspects of the replay worth discussion:

Whether or not coaches should be able to use a challenge with less than four minutes or in OT if they still have a timeout.

It is unlikely for anything beyond the NCAA Tournament, or even Championship Weekend when better camera angles exist, but is there a benefit to taking the on-field referees out of the mix? For the NCAA Tournament, could a central replay review exist to make decisions so the on-site referees aren’t involved in affirming or overturning their own call.



2. Face-Off Changes​

One of the most divisive stories of the offseason was the discussions around the face-offs at the annual IMCLA Convention. There, the coaches discussed shortening the shot clock to 60 seconds from 80 after the face-off. This would be a similar change to what the Premier Lacrosse League implemented last year — dropping from 52 seconds to 32 after a face-off win. That changed the whole tenor of face-offs in the league, causing some teams to abandon dressing a face-off specialist altogether.

More drastic measures were posed as well, including eliminating the clamp altogether.

Face-off specialists surely have grown tired of the annual attention on their position at the Rules Committee meetings. One thing leaders at the position have been clamoring for is a return of the physical set from officials, which went away post-COVID.


3. Plays Around the Crease​

It doesn’t seem likely that the Committee will eliminate the goalmouth or the dive altogether, but it’s also nearly impossible to think a room full of people dedicated to shaping the sport’s rules would not come out with some sort of additional guidance around the crease.

4. Sportsmanship, Communication with Officials​

There was quite a bit of confusion in early-April’s Cornell vs. Syracuse game. Syracuse offensive coordinator Pat March was ejected from the game after he made contact with the referee when disputing a call.

There is a lot to unpack in what was a unique situation, but the Committee can address some actionable items:

  • What is the role of an assistant coach when interacting with refs — if any? Should all communication with refs be filtered through only the head coach?
  • Is there an appropriate warning process before expulsion for verbal altercations between referees and any members of the coaching staff?
  • If a coach is expelled, what is the appeals process? Syracuse coach Gary Gait said in the week after the Cornell game that he was dismayed by the lack of clarity around appeal as March was suspended for the following game, as well.
Generally, sportsmanship was a point of emphasis last year and detailed in Page 10 of the official rulebook. “Image of the sport is at risk,” it said related to pre- and postgame issues, going onto the field of play during live play.

There is also the issue of officials assigning and conflicts of interest that were brought up after that Cornell-Syracuse game; those issues likely lie under the purview of the referees’ association.

5. Tweaks to Non-Releasable Penalties for Hits to the Head​

In the early 2010s, the Rules Committee took significant steps to reduce the frequency of significant body checks and hits to the head in an effort to make the sport safer in the face of growing concerns about the severity of concussions to athletes’ longterm health. While that reaction was comparatively swift and successful, it was about a decade before the Committee readdressed the issue.

Again, the implementation was viewed as significant, adding three tiers of locked-in penalties for hits to the head. Additionally, this implementation was part of the expanded video review as officials were allowed to head to the video board to confirm whether their adjudication was appropriate. Again, there doesn’t seem to be much consensus around changes that should be made to the system, but it wouldn’t be surprising to see the Committee make tweaks to streamline the process.

6. Shooting from Defensive Zone​

The 10-man ride — utilizing the goalie to cover an offensive player while the opposing team clears, freeing up an additional defender in the middle of the field — has proliferated since the implementation of the shot clock. Along with the 10-man ride, defenders shooting from their own end of the field has proliferated, as well, because the net is open and, if an clearing player is under pressure and a “failure to advance” call is impending, giving a teammate the chance to back-up the shot and retain possession is about as good of an outcome as possible.

It’s produced some highlight-reel 70- and 80-yard goals, but also raised questions as to whether such a shot is in the spirit of the rule. Put another way, such a shot bails out the clearing team and prevents the riding team from benefiting from doing its job well.

Asked simply: should a shot from the defensive end of the field (or within the clearing team's own restraining box) be able to be backed up to retain possession?
weird article. there doesn't need to more clarity for plays that are up for official reviews. including crease calls. the rules are clear about what is reviewable.
they are also clear about what constitutes a crease violation.

does he really mean he wants the rules to change?

on head hits... streamline the process how? they call a head hit, and then go to the video to check out if they're right and if so what penalty for it. don't understand this inclusion.

the clearing shot sounds like a wish list of his. # of boards chirping about this also. am a fan of a riding team and think the idea of taking an actual shot and not treating it like a shot is dumb.
 
I’d vote to kill the goal mouth.. just saying
This.

The dumb snow cone in the crease was a rule to prevent goalie injuries that almost never happened.

Just make it simple. If an offensive player wants to land in the crease, he better make sure the ball is in the net before he touches down.

Let the goalies & defenders decide how they’re going to discourage opponents from trying to dunk on them.
 
Nothing about out of control officials, but don't worry, we got clear mouth guards everyone!

Seems like pretty mild changes to video replay and face-offs.

 
Nothing about out of control officials, but don't worry, we got clear mouth guards everyone!

Seems like pretty mild changes to video replay and face-offs.

Mild changes are always a blessing!
 

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