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Message: [QUOTE="Ward, post: 2167687, member: 1958"] I think if a freshman is able to come in and start from Day 1 playing major minutes on what was arguably the best team in the country than you brought in a stud. I could list plenty of guys who were studs at the college level that weren't OAD or left early. You missed my point on Rautins. It's not that I don't remember where he stood in the zone it's that I don't care. It's irrelevant to me because Andy was versatile and able to do many things to help the team win. I'm saying in the 2009-2010 season he was a great basketball player. You can play the if this and if that game all you want in trying to spin the outlook for next year but I think it would be wishful thinking to expect Frank to have the same impact on the game next season as Andy did in 2009-2010 - which was your argument. [/QUOTE]