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Class of 2026 So Far We Have the #9 Portal Class...

Cusefan0307 said:
Folefac is likely the 7th or 8th guy on the roster. He's behind Sadiq and likely the 2-3 orther 6'5" to 6'7" guys that don't start.
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I'm convinced with Folefac it's a money thing. We offered and he is testing the waters to see if a better offer comes in and then if we want to match.

I don't think it's a playing time thing with him, he is not going to be a starting level P5 player anyway but at the same time for alot of matchup specific scenarios he will get on the court at 245 pounds.
 
RedtheGOB said:
I'm convinced with Folefac it's a money thing. We offered and he is testing the waters to see if a better offer comes in and then if we want to match.

I don't think it's a playing time thing with him, he is not going to be a starting level P5 player anyway but at the same time for alot of matchup specific scenarios he will get on the court at 245 pounds.
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I think there's schools he could find a starting role at. They may not be top power conference schools, but I wouldn't be surprised to see him starting at a Georgia Tech or BC.
 
dasher said:
You know what I find even more amazing? That in the Aiden Tobiason thread, after he committed, people that complain about everything couldn't take the time to post that they were happy with the commit. Amazing.
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Dash - if this is directed at me, I guess I didn’t realize there was an obligation to respond to every thread. I haven’t been as active the last couple days because I’ve spent a lot of time at the hospital with a sick relative. But since you rather snarkily wonder why I didn’t post in that particular thread, it’s because I don’t have a strong feeling about this committ one way or the other.

He seems like a nice pickup, someone who would be a good 2nd or 3rd option on a strong team. But given all the yammering we’ve heard about all the money we got when Gerry was hired, I expected more. Like maybe a proven P5 scorer, or at least someone generally regarded as a top 30-40 portal guy. (Yeah, I put some stock in rankings. You notice I didn’t criticize us being ranked 9 right now, simply pointed out we’re unlikely to be anywhere near that after the big dogs eat.)

Now I know there are a lot of guys left in the portal, and a long time until the start of fall semester, so maybe we will still make a major splash. If so, I’ll feel a lot better about Tobiason. But even tho we have a lot of roster room either there isn’t much available pt, or the guys we’ve signed aren’t as good as people here think. I saw a post on another thread (one I also didn’t comment on) saying what we’re done so far is about what we would have expected with Red, and I agree. Unless we are somehow able to sign a serious stud at center, I don’t think we will even finish in the top half of the ACC, let alone the NCAAT.

I hope I’m wrong, but if some posters are upset because I don’t share their irrational exuberance about where we are, so be it. iiwii.
 
Cappy3 said:
Dash - if this is directed at me, I guess I didn’t realize there was an obligation to respond to every thread. I haven’t been as active the last couple days because I’ve spent a lot of time at the hospital with a sick relative. But since you rather snarkily wonder why I didn’t post in that particular thread, it’s because I don’t have a strong feeling about this committ one way or the other.

He seems like a nice pickup, someone who would be a good 2nd or 3rd option on a strong team. But given all the yammering we’ve heard about all the money we got when Gerry was hired, I expected more. Like maybe a proven P5 scorer, or at least someone generally regarded as a top 30-40 portal guy. (Yeah, I put some stock in rankings. You notice I didn’t criticize us being ranked 9 right now, simply pointed out we’re unlikely to be anywhere near that after the big dogs eat.)

Now I know there are a lot of guys left in the portal, and a long time until the start of fall semester, so maybe we will still make a major splash. If so, I’ll feel a lot better about Tobiason. But even tho we have a lot of roster room either there isn’t much available pt, or the guys we’ve signed aren’t as good as people here think. I saw a post on another thread (one I also didn’t comment on) saying what we’re done so far is about what we would have expected with Red, and I agree. Unless we are somehow able to sign a serious stud at center, I don’t think we will even finish in the top half of the ACC, let alone the NCAAT.

I hope I’m wrong, but if some posters are upset because I don’t share their irrational exuberance about where we are, so be it. iiwii.
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I don’t agree. We’ve significantly upgraded the backcourt. It’s already better than this past season. Based on your analysis you wouldn’t have liked Clemson, Miami and Virginias newcomers last year. All of those schools were ranked below us and had significantly better seasons than us. Take a look at past years transfer rankings. A good amount of top guys busted at new schools. I'll put belief in the staff that they know more of what they are doing than fans here who are only looking at rankings.
 
GHLF said:
It is because most are literally toxic, more than likely pervades certainly all other areas of their life presumably or at least to a great degree. The ignore feature is tremendously useful I have learned. I must apologize honestly to the trolls because I actually take great pleasure in sub acutely messing with you. I am definitely a Homer, I am invested, and I am an alum. I love it. I am hoping I get some troll responses. I very much appreciate you as a poster. Seemingly objective, a fan, balanced. Thanks
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Cusefan0307 said:
I don’t agree. We’ve significantly upgraded the backcourt. It’s already better than this past season. Based on your analysis you wouldn’t have liked Clemson, Miami and Virginias newcomers last year. All of those schools were ranked below us and had significantly better seasons than us. Take a look at past years transfer rankings. A good amount of top guys busted at new schools. I'll put belief in the staff that they know more of what they are doing than fans here who are only looking at rankings.
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Well, last year at this time our backcourt consisted of the ACC assist leader and a McDsAA, with a top 30recruit as the 3rd guard. It didn’t work out, and there’s no guarantee this backcourt without a true point, will be any better. As far as rankings go, to quote Woody Allen “The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the stron. But that’s still the way to bet.”
 
Cusefan0307 said:
I don’t agree. We’ve significantly upgraded the backcourt. It’s already better than this past season. Based on your analysis you wouldn’t have liked Clemson, Miami and Virginias newcomers last year. All of those schools were ranked below us and had significantly better seasons than us. Take a look at past years transfer rankings. A good amount of top guys busted at new schools. I'll put belief in the staff that they know more of what they are doing than fans here who are only looking at rankings.
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Agree.

Some people would rather see 1 top 25 guy than 6 top 75-100 guys.

We need to get to top 4-6 in the ACC to have decent NCAAT tourney seeds and actually have better results in the ACCT. Considering about 9-10 ACC teams have barely done anything in the portal so far I think we’re trending way better than them.

The question remains will we end up with a better final portal roster to move us into the top 3rd of the ACC. Right now this looks like a bubble team but if we really have 30-40% (just my guess) of our nil left to bring in 2-3 more guys at the C and PG then we should easily have more talent than 12 of the of 18 ACC teams and be on our way.
 
Cappy3 said:
Well, last year at this time our backcourt consisted of the ACC assist leader and a McDsAA, with a top 30recruit as the 3rd guard. It didn’t work out, and there’s no guarantee this backcourt without a true point, will be any better. As far as rankings go, to quote Woody Allen “The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the stron. But that’s still the way to bet.”
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That's what I am getting at. Red's approach didn't work and people fell in love with him at first because of Westry/JJ rankings despite no production. Maybe just maybe these guys know what they are doing. It's film and production.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
That's what I am getting at. Red's approach didn't work and people fell in love with him at first because of Westry/JJ rankings despite no production. Maybe just maybe these guys know what they are doing. It's film and production.
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Maybe. But there’s no guarantee. They’ve never recruited to an ACC level, and so far are loading up on low and mid major guy who will have to step up a level or two. Maybe it will work out. But I’d rather get some guys who have already proven they can play at this level, by more than a game or two.
 
Cappy3 said:
Maybe. But there’s no guarantee. They’ve never recruited to an ACC level, and so far are loading up on low and mid major guy who will have to step up a level or two. Maybe it will work out. But I’d rather get some guys who have already proven they can play at this level, by more than a game or two.
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There's no guarantee with everyone. Of Clemson's 4 top scorers this year three were MM or LM transfers so there's been some precedent here.
 
Cappy3 said:
Well, last year at this time our backcourt consisted of the ACC assist leader and a McDsAA, with a top 30recruit as the 3rd guard. It didn’t work out, and there’s no guarantee this backcourt without a true point, will be any better. As far as rankings go, to quote Woody Allen “The race is not always to the swift, nor the battle to the stron. But that’s still the way to bet.”
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Clearly you must see Gmac going a different direction though. Last year we got burned by highly talented and ranked guys because they had 1 pretty stat line (JJ high scoring but inefficient, George's Assists, and Donnie's 3 point shooting and Soph jump which never happened). They showed no grit or leadership and were just soft.

I say give me a bunch of tough and physical guys that aren't one trick ponies. Burn it down and rebuild a winning culture. Gmac is leaning hard into the underdog mentality right now and guys fighting for minutes. I suspect top rated guys are not interested in Cuse because he is not promising anyone starting minutes and I'm good with that. At the same time he should have plenty of money left for high impact guys in the front court.
 
Cusefan0307 said:
Ehhh, this works both ways. People pointed out Dual was highly rated and all anyone could do was complain about him. There's more to building a basketball team than blindly following the rankings. Some of the highest ranked guys in the portal the past few years have done nothing and their next school. AJ Storr and Ian Jackson are examples.

It's about fit and the role you need them for. Also look at the impact they've had and their overall numbers. Everyone is raving about Louisville, but we will see. This way of operating didn't guarantee anything for KU and UK in the past, but anyone points out ratings and think they are an expert.
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I’m convinced the portal ratings are there for nothing more than helping the agents get their players paid. They’re about as useless as HS recruiting rankings. Beyond the obvious 10-15, it’s a crapshoot. You won’t know how effective the team is until the first month of the season is in the books. At least with the portal players, they have more experience and coaches know how they have performed in the college game. The HS kids lose out in this new system. Gotta wait their turn unless they are NBA ready coming in (Boozer, etc.).

Does anyone know if the mid major programs are doing better with Top 200 HS recruits since the NIL era opened? Some of these kids are probably better off going down a level and starting for a year to audition. Make a little $, but get those valuable minutes.
 
PeteCalvin said:
I’m convinced the portal ratings are there for nothing more than helping the agents get their players paid. They’re about as useless as HS recruiting rankings. Beyond the obvious 10-15, it’s a crapshoot. You won’t know how effective the team is until the first month of the season is in the books. At least with the portal players, they have more experience and coaches know how they have performed in the college game. The HS kids lose out in this new system. Gotta wait their turn unless they are NBA ready coming in (Boozer, etc.).

Does anyone know if the mid major programs are doing better with Top 200 HS recruits since the NIL era opened? Some of these kids are probably better off going down a level and starting for a year to audition. Make a little $, but get those valuable minutes.
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For sure. It’s just straight up gambling.

Donnie is one of those top rated guys and will get paid I’m sure. He’s played 2 years of college and missed a ton of time due to injury. He also has won 0 Q1 games in his college career.

If you didnt look at his ranking and just his injury report and W/L record you would literally laugh at any team paying him the 2+ mil he’ll prob get. I’d rather gamble on a bunch of guys for 500-750k.
 
Cappy3 said:
Dash - if this is directed at me, I guess I didn’t realize there was an obligation to respond to every thread. I haven’t been as active the last couple days because I’ve spent a lot of time at the hospital with a sick relative. But since you rather snarkily wonder why I didn’t post in that particular thread, it’s because I don’t have a strong feeling about this committ one way or the other.

He seems like a nice pickup, someone who would be a good 2nd or 3rd option on a strong team. But given all the yammering we’ve heard about all the money we got when Gerry was hired, I expected more. Like maybe a proven P5 scorer, or at least someone generally regarded as a top 30-40 portal guy. (Yeah, I put some stock in rankings. You notice I didn’t criticize us being ranked 9 right now, simply pointed out we’re unlikely to be anywhere near that after the big dogs eat.)

Now I know there are a lot of guys left in the portal, and a long time until the start of fall semester, so maybe we will still make a major splash. If so, I’ll feel a lot better about Tobiason. But even tho we have a lot of roster room either there isn’t much available pt, or the guys we’ve signed aren’t as good as people here think. I saw a post on another thread (one I also didn’t comment on) saying what we’re done so far is about what we would have expected with Red, and I agree. Unless we are somehow able to sign a serious stud at center, I don’t think we will even finish in the top half of the ACC, let alone the NCAAT.

I hope I’m wrong, but if some posters are upset because I don’t share their irrational exuberance about where we are, so be it. iiwii.
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I hope your relative recovers. The reason I posted that is that you did take the time to call out people after this commit who were excited about our rankings. I didn't say you were wrong about that. But fair is fair. It was noticeable that the same people that seem to knock both our pickups and other posters, were noticable absent when we got a verbal from a pretty good player.
 
dasher said:
I hope your relative recovers. The reason I posted that is that you did take the time to call out people after this commit who were excited about our rankings. I didn't say you were wrong about that. But fair is fair. It was noticeable that the same people that seem to knock both our pickups and other posters, were noticable absent when we got a verbal from a pretty good player.
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Well, as I said (or perhaps tried to say) if I thought he was that good, I would have posted. If I thought he was overrated I would have posted. But I was really ambivalent about it, so didn’t feel I had anything to add to the conversation.
 
BEGood said:
I highly doubt Doty will be 6 man.
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I would think he will start, but we need to see how the rest of the roster shapes up. I haven't seen much on Mark Morano Mahmutovič's defensive acumen, but it appears that he's a true sharpshooter and a scorer who can actually get into the lane and score off the bounce a little bit too - he moves very well laterally with the ball in his hands.

As it stands right now, things are very interesting the back court. Curious to see what you BeGood and other posters here think on this topic also - Based on the current roster, who plays where and who plays the most?

Here's my WAY TOO EARLY take, and keep in mind, I don't value starting at all. Playing the most minutes is what matters most (thinking back to Jim Boeheim starting certain guys then icing them for most of the half, then starting them again in the second half, then icing them again). GMAC will likely rotate up to 8 guys, but I think the below play the most minutes.

PG - Dual
SG - Doty
SF - Mahmutovič' (I have a feeling that he may be too skilled offensively to sit)
SF - Tobiason (as of now, I'm rolling with a four guard rotation, ala Villanova under Jay Wright)
Post - White

Goodrick might actually start, but when he comes out, SU plays small ball. Doty, Mahmutovič' and Tobiason will likely handle the scoring load.

GMAC will continue building his roster, he'll land at least one more big man, maybe two. If Folefac commits soon, I think GMAC goes for another big man, as he'll use Folefac and White in tandem at the 4.

GMAC may also land another PG.

Lastly, It appears GMAC will need at least one other pure shooter, now that Betsy is a Cougar.
 
BEGood said:
I highly doubt Doty will be 6 man.
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Highly doubt he would start over Tobiason. And depending on how well MMM acclimates, he might not be starting there either. 6th/7th man role would be perfect for him.
 
bnoro said:
Highly doubt he would start over Tobiason. And depending on how well MMM acclimates, he might not be starting there either. 6th/7th man role would be perfect for him.
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Yup said in another thread, Doty is literally the perfect 6th man for Cuse. From here, high energy, does a little bit of everything well, isn’t going to be your star player. But he could give you some buckets every few games at this level, he gets after it on defense, hustles and works his butt off, won’t complain and WANTS to be at Cuse no matter his role. I don’t think you could draw up a better 6th man for us tbh lol
 
CuseMan4 said:
Yup said in another thread, Doty is literally the perfect 6th man for Cuse. From here, high energy, does a little bit of everything well, isn’t going to be your star player. But he could give you some buckets every few games at this level, he gets after it on defense, hustles and works his butt off, won’t complain and WANTS to be at Cuse no matter his role. I don’t think you could draw up a better 6th man for us tbh lol
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My whole thing from the beginning was just I don't want us to settle with Doty as a starter. I feel like we're in a better place now where we didn't settle. Now just get the PG/C and I'm more optimistic
 
Cusefan0307 said:
Folefac is likely the 7th or 8th guy on the roster. He's behind Sadiq and likely the 2-3 orther 6'5" to 6'7" guys that don't start.
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I however very much believe that he would be the second man off the bench at the 4, maybe in some situations the three? 15, maybe Max 25 minutes off the bench if he was really productive. I think he is undervalued and seriously has potential. I think he is a must get as a backup and a known commodity to GM
 

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