So...the ACC still isn't very good at football...

[Scooch]

... is it?

This week's top 25 conference breakdown:

SEC: 6 (43% of the conference)
Pac-12: 6 (50%)
Big XII: 5 (50%)
B1G: 3 (21%)
ACC: 2 (14%)
IND: 1
CUSA: 1
AAC: 1

What's even worse is that the 2nd ranked ACC team is 24th (Clemson). This league is pretty much back to where it was during the 90s: Florida State and everyone else.

Not sure why a league that has schools in recruit-rich states like Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida under-performs so consistently.

Not that we're pulling our weight in any way, but it's disappointing. The 90s Big East was better, honestly.

 

[sufandu]

... is it?

This week's top 25 conference breakdown:

SEC: 6 (43% of the conference)
Pac-12: 6 (50%)
Big XII: 5 (50%)
B1G: 3 (21%)
ACC: 2 (14%)
IND: 1
CUSA: 1
AAC: 1

What's even worse is that the 2nd ranked ACC team is 24th (Clemson). This league is pretty much back to where it was during the 90s: Florida State and everyone else.

Not sure why a league that has schools in recruit-rich states like Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida under-performs so consistently.

Not that we're pulling our weight in any way, but it's disappointing. The 90s Big East was better, honestly.

In the '90's, I think there was more balance nationally than there is now too. There have always been SEC teams that were good, but the dominance and depth wasn't there like they've had in the last decade. It was nice having dominant teams sprinkled throughout the country with FSU, Nebraska, Michigan, Colorado, Miami, Washington, Ohio State, Alabama, etc. taking turns. It made it better that we were good enough to beat some of those teams some of the time too.

 

[SmilinBob]

I wouldn't go by votes but overall solid and only one bad team. Some very good OOC wins as well.

 

[anglerman]

Wait until the end of the season before you judge how good anyone is. The rankings are a popularity contest that is completely subjective.

 

[Chip]

The 90s Big East was better, honestly.

But even taking those 90s Big East teams didn't help. Miami has been such a disappointment for the ACC. They had visions of annual rematches between FSU and Miami in the conference championship game. Has that matchup even occurred?

VT is regressing under Beamer. I read something today about how they haven't blocked a kick in forever. Beamerball just doesn't work in today's game. They need to focus on playing offense.

And then there's us...yeah.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

The SEC is just light years in front at this point, other than Vandy everybody is pretty good and most are building towards getting better other than Florida and Bama, which is crazy to even consider

 

[OrangeMojo]

Wait until the end of the season before you judge how good anyone is. The rankings are a popularity contest that is completely subjective.

there's nothing subjective about the ACC being crappy this year. Name another ACC team that you'd place in the top 25 nationally. Sure, there are a bunch of solid teams from the ACC, but aside from FSU there isn't a top 20 worthy team right now (possibly Clemson by the end of the year - but they'll probably lose yet again to middle of the SEC pack South Carolina to end the year).

If FSU loses to ND this week - the national piling on the ACC stinks bandwagon will be reminiscent of the Big East days. Oh Lord

 

[Scooch]

Wait until the end of the season before you judge how good anyone is. The rankings are a popularity contest that is completely subjective.

Right, maybe we'll get 11 teams into bowls again!*

*8 of which are minor bowls for 7 win teams that didn't exist 10-15 years ago.

Rankings are inherrently subjective, and subjectively the ACC kinda stinks compared to the other P5 conferences.

 

[Scooch]

The SEC is just light years in front at this point, other than Vandy everybody is pretty good and most are building towards getting better other than Florida and Bama, which is crazy to even consider

They are, but seeing half the Pac-12 and half the Big XII ranked makes the ACC look that much worse, IMHO.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

Right, maybe we'll get 11 teams into bowls again!*

*8 of which are minor bowls for 7 win teams that didn't exist 10-15 years ago.

Rankings are inherrently subjective, and subjectively the ACC kinda stinks compared to the other P5 conferences.

You need 3-4 teams to step up from being top 50 to top 25, you would think that VT, UNC, Miami, GT, Lville could get it done but UNC has just never stepped up even with very solid recruiting, VT gotten stale, GT who knows and Miami is a mess as always

 

[IthacaBarrel]

They are, but seeing half the Pac-12 and half the Big XII ranked makes the ACC look that much worse, IMHO.

Agreed, they have no bottom feeders other than CU and I bet nobody looks forward to playing WSU which is probably 2nd worse. Oregon st who nobody cares about is 4-1 havent beaten much but still 4-1

 

[Scooch]

You need 3-4 teams to step up from being top 50 to top 25, you would think that VT, UNC, Miami, GT, Lville could get it done but UNC has just never stepped up even with very solid recruiting, VT gotten stale, GT who knows and Miami is a mess as always

Bingo.

 

[Millhouse]

... is it?

This week's top 25 conference breakdown:

SEC: 6 (43% of the conference)
Pac-12: 6 (50%)
Big XII: 5 (50%)
B1G: 3 (21%)
ACC: 2 (14%)
IND: 1
CUSA: 1
AAC: 1

What's even worse is that the 2nd ranked ACC team is 24th (Clemson). This league is pretty much back to where it was during the 90s: Florida State and everyone else.

Not sure why a league that has schools in recruit-rich states like Virginia, North Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia and Florida under-performs so consistently.

Not that we're pulling our weight in any way, but it's disappointing. The 90s Big East was better, honestly.

beamer ball isn't what it used to be and al golden is a meathead

 

[AZOrange]

The SEC is just light years in front at this point, other than Vandy everybody is pretty good and most are building towards getting better other than Florida and Bama, which is crazy to even consider

pac 12 too

 

[AZOrange]

They are, but seeing half the Pac-12 and half the Big XII ranked makes the ACC look that much worse, IMHO.

it was Better last year.

 

[storange]

Miami is an enigma, they still recruit well but continue to struggle.

 

[Hoo's That]

But even taking those 90s Big East teams didn't help. Miami has been such a disappointment for the ACC. They had visions of annual rematches between FSU and Miami in the conference championship game. Has that matchup even occurred?

No, it hasn't. At one time, the conference was having $U play Miami very early in the year so that the loser had time to recover and climb back up the Top 25. The ACC was even trying to work out a deal with ABC/ESPN to have $U-Miami be the Monday night game of the first weekend every year.

 

[Madbiker]

If Clemson hadn't played, and lost to, Georgia the opening game they would be a second ACC team in the top 15. If you're going to play one of those big OOC games early you had better win or else it just kills you. But no doubt that VT and UNC turned out to be huge disappointments.

 

[Scooch]

it was Better last year.

Eh, kinda. Obviously FSU won the title, so that was great. And Clemson scored a BCS bid and finished 8th. So the ACC looked good at the top.

But the ACC had just one other ranked team: Duke at 23.

The breakdown of the final 2013 rankings by conference was:

SEC: 7
Pac-12: 6
B1G: 3
Big XII: 3
ACC: 3
AAC: 2
Ind: 1

There's just no ranked depth to this conference, as IB alluded to.

 

[Alsacs]

Jimbo has Florida State as annual top 10 team.
Dabo has Clemson as annual top 25 team.
Beamer is on the back 9 of his career and has slipped at VPI sorta like Coach P the Hokies have an annual What loss and have slipped from annual top 25 status.
Miami has gone down hill since Butch Davis recruiting stopped and Coker couldn't recruit and Golden had the NCAA sanctions over his head.
UNC I thought with Fedora would step up this year but their defense is terrible.
Louisville with Petrino should be top 25 annually in near future.
Georgia Tech is running that option offense and the Jackets need to beat Georgia.
UVA has recruited really well with London and his defensive athletes will likely save his job. UVA has potential as long as London brings in top 25 classes.
Duke has potential to be the ACC Stanford/Northwestern which helps the middle class.
Syracuse/NC State/Boston College/Pitt/Wake Forest need to build depth up.

 

[phil77]

Coaching in the ACC isn't very good. The league is recruiting talent but they coaches aren't developing the talent. The league needs to get some better coaches. UL had a good coach in Strong and let him go to Texas. We need some young exciting coaches to enter the league.

 

[Pat Kelly]

But even taking those 90s Big East teams didn't help. Miami has been such a disappointment for the ACC. They had visions of annual rematches between FSU and Miami in the conference championship game. Has that matchup even occurred?

VT is regressing under Beamer. I read something today about how they haven't blocked a kick in forever. Beamerball just doesn't work in today's game. They need to focus on playing offense.

And then there's us...yeah.

I don't think Miami has ever reached a conference championship since joining...

 

[Pat Kelly]

Jimbo has Florida State as annual top 10 team.
Dabo has Clemson as annual top 25 team.
Beamer is on the back 9 of his career and has slipped at VPI sorta like Coach P the Hokies have an annual What loss and have slipped from annual top 25 status.
Miami has gone down hill since Butch Davis recruiting stopped and Coker couldn't recruit and Golden had the NCAA sanctions over his head.
UNC I thought with Fedora would step up this year but their defense is terrible.
Louisville with Petrino should be top 25 annually in near future.
Georgia Tech is running that option offense and the Jackets need to beat Georgia.
UVA has recruited really well with London and his defensive athletes will likely save his job. UVA has potential as long as London brings in top 25 classes.
Duke has potential to be the ACC Stanford/Northwestern which helps the middle class.
Syracuse/NC State/Boston College/Pitt/Wake Forest need to build depth up.

This is Jimbo's 3rd year with a solid top 10 team… let's wait a little bit before establishing what a program is or isn't.

 

[Alsacs]

This is Jimbo's 3rd year with a solid top 10 team… let's wait a little bit before establishing what a program is or isn't.

FSU is back. Their recruiting, ACC schedule will ensure they go 9-3 at minimum 8 of 10 years. The only way they slip once or twice a decade will be if they get Jeff Driskel at QB.
Florida plays in the SEC that is different than the ACC.

 

[Scooch]

FSU is back. Their recruiting, ACC schedule will ensure they go 9-3 at minimum 8 of 10 years. The only way they slip once or twice a decade will be if they get Jeff Driskel at QB. Florida plays in the SEC that is different than the ACC.

This conference is close to being back to Florida State and the 13 Dwarfs, like it was in the 90s (sans a few dwarfs).

No other P5 league is that singularly top heavy.

It's not good.