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Message: [QUOTE="doc05, post: 2235532, member: 2805"] I'm honestly not sure if you were watching the same team as everybody else. By all accounts Moyer wasn't ready and would not have contributed significantly anyway. I also am not sure if you saw what our vaunted interior defense looked like when a so called healthy DC and PC were in there. And let's all be real -- PC was a complete liability out there. But how anyone could have been depending on DC to contribute all year is a little beyond me if they had watched him the past 4-5 seasons. Without getting into this back and forth, I'll just say it was painfully obvious that the team would have missed the NCAA with or without DC and PC in there. Saying otherwise just sounds like a poor excuse. [/QUOTE]