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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaMatt, post: 2486335, member: 405"] I think if you count the 4 star transfers, we have a "real" ranking of about 40th. If we had closed with a couple more of those kids, I think we would have been in the 30s, just based on the number of 4 star players listed for the other teams. If we take our best case, we have five 4 stars, not just the 1 or 2 being reported on these sites. The kids have way better offers in this class than we had at any time under Shafer, and we know that these kids will make it to campus. Looking at that Post-Standard article about the 2014 class that Shafer brought in, you only see about 4 or 5 kids out of the class who made an impact. [/QUOTE]