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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 4185756, member: 5685"] If you are good then you believe that you can make a title run. You go into the season thinking this could be the year you get over the hump. So most of the time the NCAAT is a disappointment. When you aren't good any success in the NCAAT is an achievement. Since 2013 would people rather have had... 1 Final Four 2 Elite 8s 1 Sweet 16 or 2 Final Fours 2 Sweet 16s The 2nd option looks pretty good but it ignores the regular season. No one would trade the last 10 seasons of Kansas Basketball for SU. Heck I would probably trade Pitt's Big East 10 year run for our last 10 years. They went to... 0.0 Final Fours 1 Elite 8 4 Sweet 16s NCAAT appearances 10/10 years 2 regular season champs 2 conference tournament champs Top 10 finish 6/10 years avg 27.3 Ws and 7.1 Ls Our miracle 2016 Final Four run does not make up for the past 8 regular seasons. [/QUOTE]