Someone Had To Do It: Miami Attendance

[CuseBlood44]

Over 150 a pop for upper sidelines is crazy. God bless those who can and do afford that.

The same as what season tickets cost for 7 games, just saying

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Not being able to sell out a 42k stadium for this matchup, when we have one of our best teams of this century, play a genuinely exciting brand of football, and are playing a Top 10 team and nostalgic rival, is just pathetic to me.

If the students were around then sure. Anything over 40k IMO is ok.

 

[JeremyCuse]

If the students were around then sure. Anything over 40k IMO is ok.

Ya wiping out 5K+ from the regular attendance isn't easy to replace at SU right or wrong.

 

[djorange1989]

Ya wiping out 5K+ from the regular attendance isn't easy to replace at SU right or wrong.

Yep. While attendance may end up disappointing, it won’t be surprising at all

 

[storange]

How many times did I hear “ cutting back capacity will create demand “. Two years ago we had two sellouts . This year we have one of the best passers in the college game, we’re wijnning , and demand hasn’t been squat. I know let’s make the seats wider and put in triple drink holders, take away 8 k more… THEN we will sell out .

 

[Cuse House]

I suspect some people are watching the weather to see if this snow storm happens. Ultimately the map looks pretty decent for Monday. I suspect it will be almost full and the best crowd of the year.

 

[Scooch]

How many times did I hear “ cutting back capacity will create demand “. Two years ago we had two sellouts . This year we have one of the best passers in the college game, we’re wijnning , and demand hasn’t been squat. I know let’s make the seats wider and put in triple drink holders, take away 8 k more… THEN we will sell out .

You heard wrong. It’s not lower capacity that creates demand in and of itself. It’s a good product on the field that creates demand, and then a corresponding paucity of available seats amplifies that.

This program is still building. We’re gonna have the place largely full this Saturday. It’s all good.

 

[JeremyCuse]

How many times did I hear “ cutting back capacity will create demand “. Two years ago we had two sellouts . This year we have one of the best passers in the college game, we’re wijnning , and demand hasn’t been squat. I know let’s make the seats wider and put in triple drink holders, take away 8 k more… THEN we will sell out .

Your also talking about the SU team that actually was undefeated more then a few games in for the first time in forever and had just suffered three straight years of bad to god awful football. There was a lot of buzz for a team that finally appeared back to winning and even then your talking about two games and forgetting the ones earlier that season where the place was half empty. As noted the days of SU essentially giving away tickets to these games ended last year, that's why the "demand" seems down.

 

[Cuse1992]

I think the late annoucements of game times (7 day especially) does hurt who I make plans with and bring to the game. I often invite more ppl than I have tiks for and then pickup additional seats as needed. It is hard to plan with noon games and just two weeks notice. (I come in from a few hours away)

 

[MSOrange]

Not being able to sell out a 42k stadium for this matchup, when we have one of our best teams of this century, play a genuinely exciting brand of football, and are playing a Top 10 team and nostalgic rival, is just pathetic to me.

Agree and then people wonder why Gameday is going to A&M instead.

 

[CuseVegas]

Until something changes, I am very skeptical we will ever sell out the tickets AND have a capacity crowd at a football game again. There's many possible factors, but #1 is the pricing and availability of tickets.

The overall game experience and tickets are severely overpriced, and the tickets are digital, so until that changes we won't have a capacity crowd ever again. The Holy Cross "sell out" (where we had ~36,000 people in attendance) was so ridiculous to me.

The concession prices are solely the university's fault- the 16oz beer cans are $16 and mixed drinks are $23. I asked for a cup with my beer and they told me an empty cup would be an additional $23 because of how they operate. Who would want to deal with all that BS unless they are a die hard Cuse football fan??

But to me, the digital ticketing price bubble is really the major issue- our fans are getting raked over the coals. Most people don't know Seatgeek prices are vastly higher than ticketmaster's prices, especially casual fans that we want to bring into the fold with us. Ticketmaster's prices are marked up 20% or more form what the seller designates. The digital ticketing system is truly a complete nightmare. They are causing the tickets sold online to be priced at ~150% of the asking price.

***If I put a football ticket on sale for $44, it will be on ticketmaster for approximately $70, and seatgeek for approximately $100. Although I receive $39 when the tickets sells, a buyer may pay over $100 for that same ticket on Seatgeek (maybe $80 on TM) and yet I collect $39 on that sale.

Also, we no longer have flippers outside the Dome buying and selling the last few hundreds/thousand tickets that were unspoken for. If i want to simply give my tickets away, I need to get someone's email address, log into a digital ticket system, "send" them the ticket, and then have them create an account and password, etc, and sign up for the stupid app, just so someone can use the ticket. It is an incredibly dumb system that will continue to suppress attendance.

My tickets don't always get used because of this bad system, and even with the shrunken dome, it will be borderline impossible for us to find 44,000 upstate New Yorkers that are okay with spending a 50% premium on digital tickets, that will download the digital ticket app, pay $30 to park and then pay $16 for a can of beer.

Older fans also absolutely hate this app/digital ticket process. It is really a mix of foolish and inconsiderate that they did this and left fans with no ability to get printed tickets or to print out PDFs of their tickets. Raiders season ticket holders or SU LAX fans, etc, don't get hassled in this manner.

 

[Eric15]

I know several regulars who will be missing the game due to Thanksgiving.

Thanksgiving is still on Thursday this year right? I kid.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Until something changes, I am very skeptical we will ever sell out the tickets AND have a capacity crowd at a football game again. There's many possible factors, but #1 is the pricing and availability of tickets.

The overall game experience and tickets are severely overpriced, and the tickets are digital, so until that changes we won't have a capacity crowd ever again. The Holy Cross "sell out" (where we had ~36,000 people in attendance) was so ridiculous to me.

The concession prices are solely the university's fault- the 16oz beer cans are $16 and mixed drinks are $23. I asked for a cup with my beer and they told me an empty cup would be an additional $23 because of how they operate. Who would want to deal with all that BS unless they are a die hard Cuse football fan??

But to me, the digital ticketing price bubble is really the major issue- our fans are getting raked over the coals. Most people don't know Seatgeek prices are vastly higher than ticketmaster's prices, especially casual fans that we want to bring into the fold with us. Ticketmaster's prices are marked up 20% or more form what the seller designates. The digital ticketing system is truly a complete nightmare. They are causing the tickets sold online to be priced at ~150% of the asking price.

***If I put a football ticket on sale for $44, it will be on ticketmaster for approximately $70, and seatgeek for approximately $100. Although I receive $39 when the tickets sells, a buyer may pay over $100 for that same ticket on Seatgeek (maybe $80 on TM) and yet I collect $39 on that sale.

Also, we no longer have flippers outside the Dome buying and selling the last few hundreds/thousand tickets that were unspoken for. If i want to simply give my tickets away, I need to get someone's email address, log into a digital ticket system, "send" them the ticket, and then have them create an account and password, etc, and sign up for the stupid app, just so someone can use the ticket. It is an incredibly dumb system that will continue to suppress attendance.

My tickets don't always get used because of this bad system, and even with the shrunken dome, it will be borderline impossible for us to find 44,000 upstate New Yorkers that are okay with spending a 50% premium on digital tickets, that will download the digital ticket app, pay $30 to park and then pay $16 for a can of beer.

Older fans also absolutely hate this app/digital ticket process. It is really a mix of foolish and inconsiderate that they did this and left fans with no ability to get printed tickets or to print out PDFs of their tickets. Raiders season ticket holders or SU LAX fans, etc, don't get hassled in this manner.

I hate to be the bearer of bad news but every D1 team with a pulse and NFL team has gone to digital ticketing. There is no consipracy that's just how it goes now, the days of printed tickets are long gone for the general fan. SU still offers some printed tickets on request, you may want to look into that.

Also your digital pricing figures are way off. I know multiple fans who put there's up for sale and got the price they asked for on ticketmaster with no exorbitant mark up. Sure TM takes their cut but not at the volume you referencing.

 

[JeremyCuse]

Thanksgiving is still on Thursday this year right? I kid.

Lol, I know seems like it wouldn't be an issue but those affected are mostly out of towners coming in from hours and hours away. Obviously as a local unless your traveling out of town it shouldn't be an issue.

 

[Dinkyspond]

I mean.. we traveled quite well to BC. We had 60% of the crowd. Just don't send us to Fenway bowl!

I was at BC game. We had a good showing but no way 60%. That's simply preposterous. That stadium was pretty full and I would venture to guess we had easily less than 10,000 in that 40,000 capacity stadium. It still was a very good showing by Orange fans.

 

[storange]

If you remember SU put the hype machine in action for NC State . Lots of ads and the twitter spots from. Tirico and other famous alumni . I have seen very little since Sunday. I guess they just decided it wasn’t worth the time. 2022

 

[BVille44]

Ticketmaster map as of today @ 2:30 pm. (Does not include resale tickets)

 

[mustacheovich]

Until something changes, I am very skeptical we will ever sell out the tickets AND have a capacity crowd at a football game again. There's many possible factors, but #1 is the pricing and availability of tickets.

The overall game experience and tickets are severely overpriced, and the tickets are digital, so until that changes we won't have a capacity crowd ever again. The Holy Cross "sell out" (where we had ~36,000 people in attendance) was so ridiculous to me.

The concession prices are solely the university's fault- the 16oz beer cans are $16 and mixed drinks are $23. I asked for a cup with my beer and they told me an empty cup would be an additional $23 because of how they operate. Who would want to deal with all that BS unless they are a die hard Cuse football fan??

But to me, the digital ticketing price bubble is really the major issue- our fans are getting raked over the coals. Most people don't know Seatgeek prices are vastly higher than ticketmaster's prices, especially casual fans that we want to bring into the fold with us. Ticketmaster's prices are marked up 20% or more form what the seller designates. The digital ticketing system is truly a complete nightmare. They are causing the tickets sold online to be priced at ~150% of the asking price.

***If I put a football ticket on sale for $44, it will be on ticketmaster for approximately $70, and seatgeek for approximately $100. Although I receive $39 when the tickets sells, a buyer may pay over $100 for that same ticket on Seatgeek (maybe $80 on TM) and yet I collect $39 on that sale.

Also, we no longer have flippers outside the Dome buying and selling the last few hundreds/thousand tickets that were unspoken for. If i want to simply give my tickets away, I need to get someone's email address, log into a digital ticket system, "send" them the ticket, and then have them create an account and password, etc, and sign up for the stupid app, just so someone can use the ticket. It is an incredibly dumb system that will continue to suppress attendance.

My tickets don't always get used because of this bad system, and even with the shrunken dome, it will be borderline impossible for us to find 44,000 upstate New Yorkers that are okay with spending a 50% premium on digital tickets, that will download the digital ticket app, pay $30 to park and then pay $16 for a can of beer.

Older fans also absolutely hate this app/digital ticket process. It is really a mix of foolish and inconsiderate that they did this and left fans with no ability to get printed tickets or to print out PDFs of their tickets. Raiders season ticket holders or SU LAX fans, etc, don't get hassled in this manner.

We've had over 42k butts in seats multiple times the past couple years, every venue is digital now, and compared to the rest of P4 football cuse games are not expensive. But other than that, you're right on.

 

[BomberOrange]

Until something changes, I am very skeptical we will ever sell out the tickets AND have a capacity crowd at a football game again. There's many possible factors, but #1 is the pricing and availability of tickets.

The overall game experience and tickets are severely overpriced, and the tickets are digital, so until that changes we won't have a capacity crowd ever again. The Holy Cross "sell out" (where we had ~36,000 people in attendance) was so ridiculous to me.

The concession prices are solely the university's fault- the 16oz beer cans are $16 and mixed drinks are $23. I asked for a cup with my beer and they told me an empty cup would be an additional $23 because of how they operate. Who would want to deal with all that BS unless they are a die hard Cuse football fan??

But to me, the digital ticketing price bubble is really the major issue- our fans are getting raked over the coals. Most people don't know Seatgeek prices are vastly higher than ticketmaster's prices, especially casual fans that we want to bring into the fold with us. Ticketmaster's prices are marked up 20% or more form what the seller designates. The digital ticketing system is truly a complete nightmare. They are causing the tickets sold online to be priced at ~150% of the asking price.

***If I put a football ticket on sale for $44, it will be on ticketmaster for approximately $70, and seatgeek for approximately $100. Although I receive $39 when the tickets sells, a buyer may pay over $100 for that same ticket on Seatgeek (maybe $80 on TM) and yet I collect $39 on that sale.

Also, we no longer have flippers outside the Dome buying and selling the last few hundreds/thousand tickets that were unspoken for. If i want to simply give my tickets away, I need to get someone's email address, log into a digital ticket system, "send" them the ticket, and then have them create an account and password, etc, and sign up for the stupid app, just so someone can use the ticket. It is an incredibly dumb system that will continue to suppress attendance.

My tickets don't always get used because of this bad system, and even with the shrunken dome, it will be borderline impossible for us to find 44,000 upstate New Yorkers that are okay with spending a 50% premium on digital tickets, that will download the digital ticket app, pay $30 to park and then pay $16 for a can of beer.

Older fans also absolutely hate this app/digital ticket process. It is really a mix of foolish and inconsiderate that they did this and left fans with no ability to get printed tickets or to print out PDFs of their tickets. Raiders season ticket holders or SU LAX fans, etc, don't get hassled in this manner.

you just described every stadium in America.

 

[Eric15]

I guess what I’m saying is, and I know I’m going to sound douchey and I apologize in advance… I wish the median SU football fan was a little bit tougher. Like maybe you have to drive through a little snow, or spend a few bucks or reshuffle some holiday weekend plans. Just get to the Dome. Make it happen.

I know I have 690West support here.

 

[ChrisCourt]

Lol, I know seems like it wouldn't be an issue but those affected are mostly out of towners coming in from hours and hours away. Obviously as a local unless your traveling out of town it shouldn't be an issue.

Thursday is just a prep day for Saturdays REAL feast, at the tailgate!

 

[JRHEETER]

you just described every stadium in America.

I will say, they are right about Dome Pricing in the concessions.

It seems this year they have a point where it’s a touch too high because it makes me think about if I’m going to get something or not.

I never had the problem in previous seasons and while the prices were high, felt they were fair for a D1 P4 school. This season not the case.

 

[JRHEETER]

I guess what I’m saying is, and I know I’m going to sound douchey and I apologize in advance… I wish the median SU football fan was a little bit tougher. Like maybe you have to drive through a little snow, or spend a few bucks or reshuffle some holiday weekend plans. Just get to the Dome. Make it happen.

I know I have 690West support here.

No, it’s the major problem with Syracuse fans


Extremely fickle unless the team is next level

 

[ChrisCourt]

I will say, they are right about Dome Pricing in the concessions.

It seems this year they have a point where it’s a touch too high because it makes me think about if I’m going to get something or not.

I never had the problem in previous seasons and while the prices were high, felt they were far for a D1 P4 school

After getting a few drinks at the first game, the wife & I said, let's get a bit loaded before the game, then water ourselves down during the game, due to pricing at the concessions.

 

[upperdeck]

I know my Miami geeks are not coming only because of it being thanksgiving weekend. They have been waiting for years to come up here.

You cant trust the weather coming up
prices are high for rooms
air fare is insane that weekend and going home will be a zoo.