Sources: ESPN OK's option to televise ACC sports through '36

[kcsu]

How so? Short term it puts us at an even bigger disadvantage. Long term it does nothing.

The proposal is to take money out of our pocket and give schools a get out of jail free card in 5 years, and in return we get what? Peace? Big deal. I rather rip off the bandaid now. IMO this puts the B12 in better standing.

Not even close to being accurate.

 

[HRE Otto IV]

Not even close to being accurate.

What is SU getting out of taking less money and allowing teams a way out in 2031 (which means they announce in 2029)?

Having non merit based compensation leads to division (see BEVO 12). Letting teams out in 2031 makes the ACC less stable. This actually moves the death date of the ACC up 5 years. How is that a good thing for the ACC or SU?

Why would a B12 team leave for a less stable ACC? Wouldn't a school like Louisville or even SMU have their eye on the B12 in 2031 knowing that UNC, UVA, Clemson, FSU, and maybe others will announce in 2029 or 2030 that they are leaving?

This new agreement is just keeping everyone together until the kids get to college. That is never a good thing.

 

[kcsu]

What is SU getting out of taking less money and allowing teams a way out in 2031 (which means they announce in 2029)?

Having non merit based compensation leads to division (see BEVO 12). Letting teams out in 2031 makes the ACC less stable. This actually moves the death date of the ACC up 5 years. How is that a good thing for the ACC or SU?
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Why would a B12 team leave for a less stable ACC? Wouldn't a school like Louisville or even SMU have their eye on the B12 in 2031 knowing that UNC, UVA, Clemson, FSU, and maybe others will announce in 2029 or 2030 that they are leaving?

This new agreement is just keeping everyone together until the kids get to college. That is never a good thing.

We don't know what the actual terms are. My take based on the limited information available is that teams will all get a base payout which is equal. Merit compensation i believe will be based on three things. Wins, Post season, and TV ratings. My point was that in giving Clemson and FSU extra ND games they are in essence guaranteeing them good ratings which would increase their compensation. I don't know if the increase in ratings which obviously generates additional advertising revenue for both ESPN and the ACCN/League is shared equally by all members or not. My assumption is that it will increase all members distribution but will disproportionally pay Clemson and FSU an extra amount because they are the schools that will have competed in the games that drove the viewership. Again, all speculation on my part. However, if this is true it isn't hurting Syracuse and the other schools. It is actually helping them. Just that it is helping the teams that drive the viewership more. So, in essence it stays in line with a merit-based distribution plan.

 

[Franz69]

FSU should be relegated. Bums.

 

[WoadBlue]

We don't know what the actual terms are. My take based on the limited information available is that teams will all get a base payout which is equal. Merit compensation i believe will be based on three things. Wins, Post season, and TV ratings. My point was that in giving Clemson and FSU extra ND games they are in essence guaranteeing them good ratings which would increase their compensation. I don't know if the increase in ratings which obviously generates additional advertising revenue for both ESPN and the ACCN/League is shared equally by all members or not. My assumption is that it will increase all members distribution but will disproportionally pay Clemson and FSU an extra amount because they are the schools that will have competed in the games that drove the viewership. Again, all speculation on my part. However, if this is true it isn't hurting Syracuse and the other schools. It is actually helping them. Just that it is helping the teams that drive the viewership more. So, in essence it stays in line with a merit-based distribution plan.

ND draw eyeball like the Ohio ST and Bama. It isagiven that Bama draws many more playing Auburn or Ole. its than it does playing Vandy. So ND playing Clemson will draw more than ND playing Wake. SO the more that ND plays a Wake or FSU or Miami or even UNC rather a Wake, the more that people will watch ND ON ESPN. The more TV viewers thus drawn to an ACC football game.

This math in regard to TV viewer numbers is very simple. And that is THE determining factor in TV deals.

 

[HtownOrange]

From the ESPN article: ESPN picks up option to televise ACC through '36

Between the brand and success initiatives, it is expected that the ACC schools that maximize both revenue streams could close the gap with Big Ten and SEC schools to as little as a few million annually.

The discussion is internal to the ACC and there are proposals. However, if a proposal will get the top ACC teams to within "a few million annually" there must be a large increase coming forth. I have no inside info, but I find it hard to believe the lesser teams will agree to a severe cut in their revenue. If FSU and Clemson are going, why not take the money now and build the best AD you can to grab a potential open slot, maybe knock them out of contention (eleven years is a long time), and by no means assist Clemson and FSU to get out easy?

I am guessing, but I think there is probably a decent sized adjustment in the future to make the ACC a solid #3 conference and close enough for ESPN to preserve the conference without losing anything to the B1G and keeping the SEC "as is". Recall that the ACC is a profit center for ESPN/The Mickey Corp. There remains no business basis for ESPN conceding the northeast to Fox and essentially cutting themselves out of the northeast college sports scene for decades to come.

Anyway, just a thought.

 

[baggerbob]

From the ESPN article: ESPN picks up option to televise ACC through '36

Between the brand and success initiatives, it is expected that the ACC schools that maximize both revenue streams could close the gap with Big Ten and SEC schools to as little as a few million annually.

The discussion is internal to the ACC and there are proposals. However, if a proposal will get the top ACC teams to within "a few million annually" there must be a large increase coming forth. I have no inside info, but I find it hard to believe the lesser teams will agree to a severe cut in their revenue. If FSU and Clemson are going, why not take the money now and build the best AD you can to grab a potential open slot, maybe knock them out of contention (eleven years is a long time), and by no means assist Clemson and FSU to get out easy?

I am guessing, but I think there is probably a decent sized adjustment in the future to make the ACC a solid #3 conference and close enough for ESPN to preserve the conference without losing anything to the B1G and keeping the SEC "as is". Recall that the ACC is a profit center for ESPN/The Mickey Corp. There remains no business basis for ESPN conceding the northeast to Fox and essentially cutting themselves out of the northeast college sports scene for decades to come.

Anyway, just a thought.

2 things happened this year that have changed things, Fran Brown, and Bill Belichick.
Personalities who win football games, is always a selling point for TV.
I believe the referees are going to be fairer in their calls this year, especially when we boat race Tennessee.
Having a charismatic winning coach at Syracuse is good for the conference.

 

[HtownOrange]

2 things happened this year that have changed things, Fran Brown, and Bill Belichick.
Personalities who win football games, is always a selling point for TV.
I believe the referees are going to be fairer in their calls this year, especially when we boat race Tennessee.
Having a charismatic winning coach at Syracuse is good for the conference.

I hope you are correct. A few calls in our direction instead of automatically going south would be beneficial.

 

[Toga]

2 things happened this year that have changed things, Fran Brown, and Bill Belichick.
Personalities who win football games, is always a selling point for TV.
I believe the referees are going to be fairer in their calls this year, especially when we boat race Tennessee.
Having a charismatic winning coach at Syracuse is good for the conference.

Let's be very very sure we don't commit some grievous uniform violation.

 

[HtownOrange]

Let's be very very sure we don't commit some grievous uniform violation.

I am sure the SEC refs will be well schooled in uniform and other obscure infractions which may be used in a pinch to ensure Tennessee has a "fair" chance of winning.