Spitt on Pitt Postgame...

[orangenauburn]

His shirt is amazing

 

[All4SU]

No idea how the rest of the year will play out, but a fun game and nice win.

Kudos to the staff for creativity and a great gameplan.

My thoughts exactly, Dick. There is a time and a season for everything. Someone ( or some people) smarter than I will decide where SU goes from here. All in good time.

In the meantime, I saw my team beat a hated rival and peer program without being able to throw the ball. The players were happy, playing hard for each other. And yes, I was entertained.

 

[cusefan88]

They should have done this last week vs BC. But I'm happy. Shout-out to Long Island's Dan Villari.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

still so emotional. the absolute worst and dumbest thing

It's not emotion when it's been my thinking since VPI.

Stop trying to manifest stupidity.

 

[orangenauburn]

They should have done this last week vs BC. But I'm happy. Shout-out to Long Island's Dan Villari.

It's a season of what ifs already

Beat BC and we are bowling

GaTech, night game, terrible against the run but will be prepared for the Cuse three headed attack

Wake, who may be checked out by the time we play

Opportunity is there

 

[OttoinGrotto]

There’s a company within the industry I work in that goes through all levels of management people roughly every three years. It’s known to a point many external recruiters won’t work with them anymore, and anyone with skill knows going there is a potential career death sentence. The result is they hire people that don’t have qualification for the job they take, or the awareness of what a bad decision it is - and the cycle repeats itself.

We’re trapped in a spot where becoming “that school” is a risk if we:
1) Fire a coach who had potential to get us to 7 wins, but we pulled the pin early.
2) Fire a coach who got us to seven regular season wins and the first back-to back bowl games with the same head coach in over two decades.

That’s why firing him last Monday would have been incredibly short sighted and stupid. I can’t see two more wins here, we’ll get to seven losses and make a change.

(And I know guys here scream “but it’s been eight years!!!!” - and while that might seem super compelling to them, it isn’t to anyone outside of this bubble. We’re already seeing articles about how hard a job Syracuse is; that turns into an avalanche and the main national narrative if we fire in either of the two scenarios I listed. Which will make getting a qualified coach harder, which will make turning things around unlikely, which will mean we’re back to square one in three years looking for a replacement in a job justifiably viewed in the business as a career killer).

This is madness.

As much as I think we need to move on from Dino even if he manages to scrape out a bowl season, I won’t move the goalposts and claim he still needs to go.

All along my minimum requirement for him to keep his job, in my opinion, has been bowl appearances. I don’t believe I now have the right to stipulate that it also depends on HOW he reaches that goal. So if he manages to reach that goal, I (reluctantly) believe he should keep his job.

With that said, they shouldn’t give him a very favorable contract extension. It should be 2 years and lower in guaranteed $ with more offered in performance bonuses. If he doesn’t like a little less, but still millions a year, then he can retire because I doubt any program that would be worth it to him hires him.

You can move the goalposts. Adjusting your thinking based on new knowledge is a positive character trait.

 

[BillSU]

It may depend on who the head coach and OC are.

They will be the same as this year.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[CanadianSU]

Kinda funny cuse beats an absolute horrendous historically bad Pitt team with a QB doing backflips and physically in pain after every throw with it’s first ACC win in a horrible conference and the word extension is mentioned?

a run on sentence is the only way to include all the insanity.

 

[Cheriehoop]

You talking about Amazon?

They are notorious for trying to run people off before benefits kick in and or are vested

They did the math and gamble that it costs more to provide benefits than replace a person

That’s far from a new or unique strategy for a number of companies.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

How do you know when and if he is involve

I think he'd have more success as an OC if Dino would quit meddling. I think today's scheme was at least 85% Beck.

The Dino is meddling when things go bad a CEO when they don’t is such nonsense. The staff took a huge risk today and it worked, they won the game. Sure they beat a bad team but it was Pitt who has owned us and a win is a win

 

[pattycuse]

Kinda funny cuse beats an absolute horrendous historically bad Pitt team with a QB doing backflips and physically in pain after every throw with it’s first ACC win in a horrible conference and the word extension is mentioned?

a run on sentence is the only way to include all the insanity.

Exactly. Context matters- the win feels great and the kids (and coaches) deserve it. But resorting to a gimmick offense to beat a 2-7 Pitt squad is an indication of how much trouble the program is in. Hence why a change is needed.

 

[orangecuse]

Kinda funny cuse beats an absolute horrendous historically bad Pitt team with a QB doing backflips and physically in pain after every throw with it’s first ACC win in a horrible conference and the word extension is mentioned?

a run on sentence is the only way to include all the insanity.

 

[NYCCuse826]

Doesn't look or sound like someone who has lost his team. The last two weeks are going to be interesting.

 

[David332]

I missed the announcement that Syracuse transitioned to a Service Academy. 382 yds.rushing / 17 yds. Passing

I’ll get some red heels thrown at me for this but I like this style of football, and wouldn’t mind at all if we installed something more like this going forward. I like watching the service academies play football.

Is it sustainable in the ACC? Probably not but I like watching it.

 

[RandomGuy]

It amazes me with zero passing game to be able to win any game. Happy for the team today and no complaints they touched it out against a team I hate and for all the frustrating moments this year are one win away from a bowl game

Nahh. 2009 Georgia Tech (#13)had less than 6 completions a game. Won 11 games and the ACC. Over 3000 yards rushing. You win any way you can.

 

[qdawgg]

There’s a company within the industry I work in that goes through all levels of management people roughly every three years. It’s known to a point many external recruiters won’t work with them anymore, and anyone with skill knows going there is a potential career death sentence. The result is they hire people that don’t have qualification for the job they take, or the awareness of what a bad decision it is - and the cycle repeats itself.

We’re trapped in a spot where becoming “that school” is a risk if we:
1) Fire a coach who had potential to get us to 7 wins, but we pulled the pin early.
2) Fire a coach who got us to seven regular season wins and the first back-to back bowl games with the same head coach in over two decades.

That’s why firing him last Monday would have been incredibly short sighted and stupid. I can’t see two more wins here, we’ll get to seven losses and make a change.

(And I know guys here scream “but it’s been eight years!!!!” - and while that might seem super compelling to them, it isn’t to anyone outside of this bubble. We’re already seeing articles about how hard a job Syracuse is; that turns into an avalanche and the main national narrative if we fire in either of the two scenarios I listed. Which will make getting a qualified coach harder, which will make turning things around unlikely, which will mean we’re back to square one in three years looking for a replacement in a job justifiably viewed in the business as a career killer).

Nobody is going to bat an eye for a school firing a coach with one of the worst tenure records in the country and an incredibly bad record against ACC competition. If anything, everyone thinks we’re mismanaged because he’s still here, not because he could get fired with a winning record this year. Especially in the coaching world. This isn’t corporate America or anything close to it.

 

[OburgOrange]

From the highlights I saw, the team played HARD! Kudos to them.

 

[IthacaBarrel]

I’ll get some red heels thrown at me for this but I like this style of football, and wouldn’t mind at all if we installed something more like this going forward. I like watching the service academies play football.

Is it sustainable in the ACC? Probably not but I like watching it.

I will say this, I could use another 10-12 pass plays but I think Syracuse needs to commit to something on offense as far as an identity and stick to it. When it works they will be much tougher to beat when they get stuffed we will most likely get beat but at least you can recruit and develop talent for it and exploit certain defense

 

[Millhouse]

It's not emotion when it's been my thinking since VPI.

Stop trying to manifest stupidity.

I'm fine if they move on. But it's not the dumbest thing to keep a coach who goes to consecutive bowls.

 

[syrBossHogg]

Don't be afraid of making the same mistake as firing P

P lost support from the school and still got a bowl game in his final year

Dino is barely scrapping to potentially his 3rd bowl in 8 years as a HC

Different situations IMO

 

[orangenauburn]

From the highlights I saw, the team played HARD! Kudos to them.

Johnson laid the wood a couple times

 

[David332]

I will say this, I could use another 10-12 pass plays but I think Syracuse needs to commit to something on offense as far as an identity and stick to it. When it works they will be much tougher to beat when they get stuffed we will most likely get beat but at least you can recruit and develop talent for it and exploit certain defense

We could be a very desirable destination for offensive linemen running a triple option offense. Plus we wouldn’t be getting blown out as we would be controlling the clock.

 

[orangenauburn]

Don't be afraid of making the same mistake as firing P

P lost support from the school and still got a bowl game in his final year

Dino is barely scrapping to potentially his 3rd bowl in 8 years as a HC

Different situations IMO

If they keep him if team gets a bowl, they better land a good portal QB. Next year in theory looks as easy schedule wise as this should have been

 

[syrBossHogg]

If they keep him if team gets a bowl, they better land a good portal QB. Next year in theory looks as easy schedule wise as this should have been

Yeah even if the transfer portal era is there a QB good enough to get Dino an extension in a must win year? Any QB with only 1 year left that isn't going to the NFL is probably looking for a big time program