St. John's suspends Chris Obekpa for 2 weeks for violating team rules

[CuseHulk]

How many guys would be stupid enough to use before the NCAA Tournament when I'm sure hope they know or been warned.

I'm against having a policy in the first place. And the fact we were punished for breaking our own policy was stupid. We broke our own policy let us punish ourselves.

 

[Cheriehoop]

That's a good question. As I understand it, the answer is no. Anyone who's currently involved with university athletics should correct me if I'm wrong, but ten years ago this was prohibited.

Kind of like having your cake and eating it too - if a school gets the benefit of having the information from drug testing, it needs to be part of a written policy.

Well then can a university's drug policy have specific consequences depending on what drug is found in these tests? Using marijuana shouldn't have the same dire consequences as other more serious drug habits.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Well then can a university's drug policy have specific consequences depending on what drug is found in these tests? Using marijuana shouldn't have the same dire consequences as other more serious drug habits.

Aren't they all illegal?

If you get pulled over for DUI, is the penalty less severe if you were only drinking beer?

 

[OttoMets]

Well then can a university's drug policy have specific consequences depending on what drug is found in these tests? Using marijuana shouldn't have the same dire consequences as other more serious drug habits.

Aren't they all illegal?

If you get pulled over for DUI, is the penalty less severe if you were only drinking beer?

That's the answer. Here, "drug" applies broadly to all Schedule I-III controlled substances, as defined by Congress (which is a whole different kettle of fish...kind of a head-scratcher that legislators, over the protests of the NIH and all kinds of scientists, decided 45 years ago that marijuana should be more tightly controlled than, say, cocaine).

 

[Cheriehoop]

Aren't they all illegal?

If you get pulled over for DUI, is the penalty less severe if you were only drinking beer?

Not condoning anything but if you're caught selling heroin is the punishment the same as selling marijuana? Really it's a question, far from a drug expert.

Oops guess OttoMets answered me. Thank you. As Roseannadanna would say "never mind"

 

[dollarbill44]

Aren't they all illegal?

If you get pulled over for DUI, is the penalty less severe if you were only drinking beer?

The legality of the drug depends on the state/municipality. Marijuana use is allowed in many jurisdictions now in the U.S. through outright legalization (Colorado, Washington and soon-to-be Alaska) or decriminalization (Vermont, Washington D.C., etc).

As for bringing the act of driving into the equation, no, the penalty is the same, but that isn't what's being discussed here. If I get a buzz on at home, I haven't broken any laws.

 

[Frozen]

There may or may not be more trouble for the Fightin' Lavins:


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[jordoo]

Yep, you want to find out yourself and not the NCAA. Most disagree but I think you need to have a drug policy. Thing is though, you need to follow it.

Yes but penalties ways not to have to enforcement of them should be well thought out and clearly stated in the policy. You certainly need to know ahead of time that your guys are good going into the tourney.

 

[urban96]

These kids know that the substances are banned (legal or not). They know theyre going to be tested at some point. They still choose to use them. Very irresponsible!!

 

[jordoo]

These kids know that the substances are banned (legal or not). They know theyre going to be tested at some point. They still choose to use them. Very irresponsible!!

Irresponsible college kids, surely you jest!

 

[dyedorange]

Man, college coaches must be hoping for marijuana legalization big time! Imagine if recreational use was legal in all states, so many of these smokin' dope violations would be a non-issue (assuming the private schools that have drug policies would change their policies to accord with the law, since I assume, as private institutions, they'd still be free to have whatever internal policies they wanted). Not making any comment about the politics of legalization itself, just that it would have a huge effect on some of these eligibility issues.

On a separate note, I wonder about the rationale for having a drug policy for these kids. Obviously, normal college kids are not tested (and we all know what the results would show if they did!), but what is it about the "student-athlete" situation that justifies testing? It's certainly not about concerns over performance enhancement, if they're testing for things like weed. I can only assume the logic is that these kids are out in the public eye, representing the universities, and therefore it's in the university's interest to make sure they're behaving in ways that aren't embarrassing. I suppose it gives the school the perception that they care about "ethics" (slippery territory, I know), but if they wanted to be consistent about that, then why not test regular students before they enter the lecture hall for exams? Anybody have any thoughts on the justification for these policies? I have to think there are schools out there that don't have drug policies for reasons other than the convenience of not having to punish their own players.