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Message: [QUOTE="TheCusian, post: 3888273, member: 2585"] Had the schedule strength been on par with *any* other 4 year span, I’d agree. Shafer didn’t exactly leave us in great straights either. Marrone didn’t recruit Nassib, Dino didn’t recruit Dungey. But they were both left with very good young QBs. Many of the changes, outside of the IPF, were added in the Dino era and the reflected a catching up to where many ACC programs already were. And - credit to Dino for asking and for Wildhack stepping up. Agreed the Marrone’s AD was way less agreeable and competent. I think Marrone is the better HC. What I said was that it’s way closer than many want to give credit for. (You could call 2012 an outlier for Doug, pretty easily too.) [/QUOTE]