Steve Angeli: Torn Achilles

[Loosecuse]

I would personally like to apologize to Mr Angeli as I was for sure the loudest one to boo him from 322. I’m sorry sir I didn’t recognize your game it won’t happen again.

 

[Cuseregular]

I think going for it on 4th down was more a function of wanting to make a statement that we are better than you. Not so much that we thought we couldn't win kicking field goals. He wanted to blow them out, and didn't.

Totally on board with that first one not going for the field goal decision to set the tone, definitely not for the second one as you take the points there.

 

[Archbold44]

I agree. You should take the points, especially early in a game.
But I didn't agree with your take on Fran's mindset in going for it on 4th down.

I agree with you regarding the reason. But the message it sends is a bit more desperate.

Totally on board with that first not going to the field goal decision to set the tone, definitely not for the second one as you take the points there.

I flip it. You take the points first. The second time you go for it to set the tone that you are not settling for FGs all day.

 

[Cuse On 3]

Anyone going to the Colgate game Friday? In the 300’s. Thinking about doing the 100’s on Halloween against belicheat

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Cuseregular]

I agree with you regarding the reason. But the message it sends is a bit more desperate.

I flip it. You take the points first. The second time you go for it to set the tone that you are not settling for FGs all day.

Nah you set the tone if you can from the outset that we’re better than you. Because you gotta score to win this game of football and with the score at 0-0 there’s no issues.

But now down 7-0, where you failed the first time, failed to set the tone, failed to show your the superior team, and the team you’re playing showed they’re legit and it’s gonna be a game, then at that point you take the points and field goal. Going for it the second time was unwise arrogance on our part. Frans got some things to learn understandably as a young coach.

Meaning learn balance. Am I happy we have a coach who thinks outside the box and isn’t conservative like so many before him? Damn straight, love his aggressiveness and prefer he err on the side he is and it’s by and large paying off.

But much like wildhack etc guided him with some things he mentioned in the press conference, hopefully somebody will get his in his ear about striking that balance I mention above/being A bit more strategic in his thinking and decision making.

 

[Archbold44]

Nah you set the tone if you can from the outset that we’re better than you. Because you gotta score to win this game of football and with the score at 0-0 there’s no issues.

But now down 7-0, where you failed the first time, failed to set the tone, failed to show your the superior team, and the team you’re playing showed they’re legit and it’s gonna be a game, then at that point you take the points and field goal. Going for it the second time was unwise arrogance on our part. Frans got some things to learn understandably as a young coach.

Meaning learn balance. Am I happy we have a coach who thinks outside the box and isn’t conservative like so many before him? Damn straight, love his aggressiveness and prefer he err on the side he is and it’s by and large paying off.

But much like wildhack etc guided him with some things he mentioned in the press conference, hopefully somebody will get his in his ear about striking that balance I mention above/being A bit more strategic in his thinking and decision making.

We will have to agree to disagree. I take the first FG. You just marched down the field. You do not want to come away empty. This is UConn, not Holy Cross. You are not going to be the superior team because of one drive.

A FG gives you the lead. If they get a TD, you can get a TD and retake the lead. If they get a FG, you get a FG and retake the lead. If they don't score, you can always go for it on the next one...

 

[shu 49]

My superficial take is that some of the bad throws were just on busted plays and on others, he got lazy with his footwork (and doesnt have the arm strength to overcome that). The laziness thing would get to Board Messiah Eric Dungey too, just less frequently.

I thought his best throw of the night was the scramble/roll out dart he threw to Russell in the fourth quarter, immediately before the terrible pick he threw to the other side of the field.

I'd like to see Nixon get a little more creative with option/play action and get Angeli moving more, both on planned throws and with some short scrambles just to make positive plays.

Right now, I see him as a moderate floor/low ceiling guy. He's not going to carry the team, but when he's playing well, he's definitely competitive enough to win games.

Exactly

 

[IthacaMatt]

I would personally like to apologize to Mr Angeli as I was for sure the loudest one to boo him from 322. I’m sorry sir I didn’t recognize your game it won’t happen again.

Do you feel better now?
Hell of a first post.
Congrats.

 

[Yeti]

The laziness thing would get to Board Messiah Eric Dungey too, just less frequently.

Eric Dungey was 7 feet tall and shot lightning bolts from his arse. He would’ve scored 30 on UConn by himself.

 

[tptcuse]

I would personally like to apologize to Mr Angeli as I was for sure the loudest one to boo him from 322. I’m sorry sir I didn’t recognize your game it won’t happen again.

Great first post.

 

[Cuseregular]

We will have to agree to disagree. I take the first FG. You just marched down the field. You do not want to come away empty. This is UConn, not Holy Cross. You are not going to be the superior team because of one drive.

A FG gives you the lead. If they get a TD, you can get a TD and retake the lead. If they get a FG, you get a FG and retake the lead. If they don't score, you can always go for it on the next one...

yeah I get that thinking too, good thoughts

 

[IthacaMatt]

Great first post.

That's not what he originally wrote. He edited it.

 

[Yeti]

That's not what he originally wrote. He edited it.

I was truly curious lmao

 

[tptcuse]

That's not what he originally wrote. He edited it.

Ah...

 

[bnoro]

since you're so interested in this, it's historic in this way too, as discussed here coming back with a 1% chance of winning at the time in 4th qrt to actually come back and win which has not been done before here is the implication. As they discuss, circumstances were such that it's never been done in quite this way before, that's "historic":

I'm not interested enough to listen to Mike McAllister's voice.

1% win probability just means it happens 1 out of every 100 times. There's been hundreds of thousands of football games.

 

[FireballPhil]

I sincerely hope it's not, but sounds good to me.

Can I borrow your Ferrari? I know you are still making payments but I only need it for a couple hours.

 

[pokercuse08]

We won't learn anything from a 4th quarter Collins cameo in a blowout.

We will learn something if Angeli doesn't blow the doors off Colgate. If it's within 14 points at halftime we have a serious problem.

I'm not really concerned with learnings anything about Collins, I just want this win to be comfortable enough that he gets some snaps and gets to run the offense a bit. The OL has me pretty concerned, and while Angeli seems tough, I'm not sure he's big enough to withstand the number of hits he's been taking all year without missing a game at some point. So I'd like Collins to at least get some game reps in.

 

[djorange1989]

I'm not interested enough to listen to Mike McAllister's voice.

1% win probability just means it happens 1 out of every 100 times. There's been hundreds of thousands of football games.

I assume the probability was about the same for Baylor against SMU, down 14 on the road with 7 minutes left. Played the same day

 

[Niastri]

Can I borrow your Ferrari? I know you are still making payments but I only need it for a couple hours.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Can’t wait for the crow feast to be on display later this year.
His 3rd start. Crap O-line play. Unengaged team. Physically battered. Leads a comeback.
Some people here would have issued definitive proclamations as to the final outcome immediately after the first Commandment had been written.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

I'm not interested enough to listen to Mike McAllister's voice.

1% win probability just means it happens 1 out of every 100 times. There's been hundreds of thousands of football games.

Not really. It means that any team in that scenario has almost no chance of coming back. (They never say there is a 0% chance or a 100% chance of an outcome, because freak things can happen).
It doesn’t mean that such a comeback actually happens once out of every 100 times the situation occurs.

 

[Chip]

Single biggest priority is get a run game going.

I'd probably put blitz pick up as either equal, or really close behind.

We dropped back 59 times against UConn, giving up 6 sacks.

RB attempts were 20 for 78 yards. Not great, not horrible. But only ran the ball on 25% of snaps. Could be because Willis was banged up, so get him right and then give him the rock more.

 

[bnoro]

Not really. It means that any team in that scenario has almost no chance of coming back. (They never say there is a 0% chance or a 100% chance of an outcome, because freak things can happen).
It doesn’t mean that such a comeback actually happens once out of every 100 times the situation occurs.

The statistic called "win probability" is literally the definition of what probability is.

How do you think they calculate that percentage? Throughout every single football game ever played, the statistics show that there is a 1 in 100 chance that a team can come back in win means that it is a 1% win probability.

The Miami game where Cristobal ran instead of kneeling is one of the few games that should have been at 0% probability. But now, in that scenario, there will be a 0.01% chance the opposing team wins.

 

[007]

Not really. It means that any team in that scenario has almost no chance of coming back. (They never say there is a 0% chance or a 100% chance of an outcome, because freak things can happen).
It doesn’t mean that such a comeback actually happens once out of every 100 times the situation occurs.

Umm...that is exactly what it means. It's based on a probability formula.