Steve Ishmael...

[007]

Playmaker

This kid is gonna have a very good career here,

 

[anomander]

Runs great routes.
Excellent body control.
Great hands.
Very good size.
Speed is under rated.

Very excited to see him finish the year.

 

[nocoffee]

Playmaker

This kid is gonna have a very good career here,

Agreed. He seems to take some hard shots. My only concern is his health long term.

 

[Libero2]

Agreed. He seems to take some hard shots. My only concern is his health long term.

This is also something one can learn to avoid/lessen as he gains experience. Some can learn to avoid taking big hits, some can't. But Ish certainly looks like he has the ability to be our next pro WR.

 

[HtownOrange]

This is also something one can learn to avoid/lessen as he gains experience. Some can learn to avoid taking big hits, some can't. But Ish certainly looks like he has the ability to be our next pro WR.

I agree but would not be surprised to see West get a shot as a FA and be brought in as a possession guy. I think he lost some speed when he injured his foot but he makes a nice outlet receiver for Long, he could do the same in the NFL.

 

[Finwad32]

Legit

 

[orangencpolice]

He is hard worker too. Saw him at Manley in the summer working out with another unidentified player. They were doing the rope drill for improving foot speed. It was voluntary and he was hitting it pretty hard. Super nice and respectful, as you can guess by the avatar. My son idolizes him.

 

[CanadianSU]

One of McDonalds gets.

 

[Pat Kelly]

One of McDonalds gets.

Him and Estime… two very good gets

 

[CanadianSU]

Him and Estime… two very good gets

Yes sir

 

[leftytg]

I agree but would not be surprised to see West get a shot as a FA and be brought in as a possession guy. I think he lost some speed when he injured his foot but he makes a nice outlet receiver for Long, he could do the same in the NFL.

If Alec Lemon can't hold onto a roster spot in the NFL, West doesn't have a prayer.

It is easy to underestimate just how hard it is to make an NFL roster.

 

[Stern]

He is the BEST WR we have had come here since Mike Williams. Kid flat out is a go-to guy. With more experience he will only get better

 

[Cuse'91]

If Alec Lemon can't hold onto a roster spot in the NFL, West doesn't have a prayer.

It is easy to underestimate just how hard it is to make an NFL roster.

Exactly. The NFL is VERY unforgiving of wideouts without separation speed...

 

[baggerbob]

Next year when AJ has Ashton, Estime, Ishmael, Parris, Phillips, Custis, Enoicy, Moore to throw to, the offense will be explosive.

 

[retro44]

If Alec Lemon can't hold onto a roster spot in the NFL, West doesn't have a prayer.

It is easy to underestimate just how hard it is to make an NFL roster.

Every situation is different,Alec still has a chance as he is a gamer

 

[Acuse]

It's because of recruits like Ish that we need McDonald.

 

[JoeyZ]

Next year when AJ has Ashton, Estime, Ishmael, Parris, Phillips, Custis, Enoicy, Moore to throw to, the offense will be explosive.

Thats legitimately a ridiculous amount of talent.

 

[Orange4]

These injuries actually are turning out to be positives for us in a way, Ishmael, Lewis, Phillips and Long are really breaking out as players because of the injuries. Imagine how many threats we will have when everybody is back, gotta love it.

 

[Pat Kelly]

Exactly. The NFL is VERY unforgiving of wideouts without separation speed...

I agree, but never forget that Jerry Rice ran a 4.71 40. Plenty things that can make as big a difference as speed.

 

[Libero2]

I agree, but never forget that Jerry Rice ran a 4.71 40. Plenty things that can make as big a difference as speed.

Two things, rice had game speed, not timed speed. Anqun Boldin suffered from the same problem. There are flip side guys with ridiculous timed speed and no game speed, those guys almost never make the league long term.

Rice was also quite possibly the best route runner in the history of football. He created separation better than anybody else, and was always open, speed matters, but if the corner makes a false step because you ran a perfect route, you will be plenty open enough even with average speed.

 

[orangencpolice]

Exactly. The NFL is VERY unforgiving of wideouts without separation speed...

I think that is what Ishmael needs to improve on to become an NFL caliber reciever. If you watch his high school highlight film, he catches everything. If he can improve on his speed, he will dominate. I would be interested to know what his 40 time was this year. The kid seems to have the work ethic so we will see.

 

[Jake]

Fwiw, I thought we caught a break on his "fumble". Thought it was out before his knee was down..,glad we got the play off.

 

[Libero2]

Fwiw, I thought we caught a break on his "fumble". Thought it was out before his knee was down..,glad we got the play off.

Think you are talking about West

 

[Pat Kelly]

Think you are talking about West

Noooo the one in the red zone they didn't even review for some reason

 

[BlackKnight76]

Next year when AJ has Ashton, Estime, Ishmael, Parris, Phillips, Custis, Enoicy, Moore to throw to, the offense will be explosive.

Forgot Lewis