SU 71 at Miami 60: Thurs Feb 15, 6 PM

[baggerbob]

Agree. Continue to say this team is criminally underrated.

Miami is in everyone’s bracket. They were a 9 seed in the ESPN one released yesterday. You don’t just go on the road against a solid NCAA team and completely dominate them unless you are something special.

We better start showing up in the top ten soon. We better start showing up as a 2 or a 3 seed soon. This is getting ridiculous.

The only way they are going to get any respect nationally is to make a deep run in the NCAA tournament.
If they made it to the elite 8, they might get some respect.
We were picked to finish 9th, so the National Media figures it's a fluke.

 

[Ozone!]

Great win ladies!​

 

[swish7]

Switching to it now. Game starts at 8

Bummed it was on Peacock.

Agree. Continue to say this team is criminally underrated.

Miami is in everyone’s bracket. They were a 9 seed in the ESPN one released yesterday. You don’t just go on the road against a solid NCAA team and completely dominate them unless you are something special.

We better start showing up in the top ten soon. We better start showing up as a 2 or a 3 seed soon. This is getting ridiculous.

In my unscientific opinion, it seems our losses were really poorly timed. Turn even one of those losses into a W and we're probably ranked 6+ positions higher and an easier path to the two seed.

Still, we have a nice road ahead. Favored in 3 of 4. TCOB in the regular season. Win a few in the ACCT. And we got this. 3 seed easily. Pull 1 more upset in either, and / or advance to the ACCT championship and we got a 2 seed. Pulling all that out my butt, so take it for what its worth.

 

[sutomcat]

There was a ‘hoops reveal’ last night that showed who the top 16 would be if the season ended last night.

No Syracuse.

South Carolina top seed in women's hoops reveal

The undefeated South Carolina Gamecocks are the No. 1 overall seed in the first top-16 reveal ahead of the 2024 NCAA women's college basketball tournament, the NCAA announced Thursday night.

www.espn.com

 

[baggerbob]

There was a ‘hoops reveal’ last night that showed who the top 16 would be if the season ended last night.

No Syracuse.

South Carolina top seed in women's hoops reveal

The undefeated South Carolina Gamecocks are the No. 1 overall seed in the first top-16 reveal ahead of the 2024 NCAA women's college basketball tournament, the NCAA announced Thursday night.

www.espn.com

I know and even though 5 ACC teams are ranked only 3 made the top 16.

 

[swish7]

Took a quick scan of teams with 3 or more wins against the top 25. ranked by wins against the top 25, then by poll number.

1. #1 AP | #1 net - SC - 6-0
2. #6 AP | #10 net - NC State - 6-2
3. #9 AP | #7 net - UCLA - 5-3
4. #15 AP | #3 net - UCONN - 5-4
5. #21 AP | #20 net - Baylor 5-3
6. #2 AP | #8 net - Ohio State - 4-2
7. #3 AP | #2 net - Stanford - 4-2
8. #5 AP | #4 net - Texas - 4-2
9. #7 AP | #14 net - Kansas State - 4-2
10. #11 AP | #18 net - Oregon State - 4-3
11. #12 AP | #17 net - Virginia Tech - 4-3
12. #19 AP | #38 net - Syracuse - 4-3
13. #23 AP | #28 net - Oklahoma - 4-3
14. #8 AP | #15 net - Colorado - 4-4
15. #18 AP | #22 net - Louisville - 4-4
16. #4 AP | #5 net - Iowa 3-1
17. #10 AP | #16 net - USC 3-3
18. unranked AP | #39 net - Iowa State 3-3
19. unranked AP | #41 net - FSU - 3-4
20. unranked AP | #29 net - UNC - 3-6

Source: Women's College Basketball Standings, 2023-24 season - ESPN
Source: DI Women's Basketball Rankings - NCAA Women's Basketball NET Rankings | NCAA.com

 

[721Comstock]

Took a quick scan of teams with 3 or more wins against the top 25. ranked by wins against the top 25, then by poll number.

1. #1 SC - 6-0
2. #6 NC State - 6-2
3. #9 UCLA - 5-3
4. #15 UCONN - 5-4
5. #21 Baylor 5-3
6. #2 Ohio State - 4-2
7. #3 Stanford - 4-2
8. #5 Texas - 4-2
9. #7 Kansas State - 4-2
10. #11 Oregon State - 4-3
11. #12 Virginia Tech - 4-3
12. #19 Syracuse - 4-3
13. #23 Oklahoma - 4-3
14. #8 Colorado - 4-4
15. #18 Louisville - 4-4
16. #4 Iowa 3-1
17. #10 USC 3-3
18. Iowa State 3-3
19. FSU - 3-4
20. UNC - 3-6

Source: Women's College Basketball Standings, 2023-24 season - ESPN

So, teams like Texas & KState, and especially Colorado, Iowa, and USC seem to get a LOT more rankings love,
even tho their records vs Top 25 aren’t appreciably better, and are often worse.

Seems like the Twerps L is haunting us, even tho that wasn’t remotely a “bad” loss.

Just win, ladies!
TCOB, and the rankings should take care of themselves.

 

[CoopSwoop]

So, teams like Texas & KState, and especially Colorado, Iowa, and USC seem to get a LOT more rankings love,
even tho their records vs Top 25 aren’t appreciably better, and are often worse.

Seems like the Twerps L is haunting us, even tho that wasn’t remotely a “bad” loss.

Just win, ladies!
TCOB, and the rankings should take care of themselves.

It's the Net Ranking that lowers SU. We won last night and moved to 38 from 41. This has a bigger impact then the polls/record for the NCAA.

NET RANK

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Marsh01]

So is she in line for ACC Coach of the Year?

She should be national coach of the year

 

[swish7]

It's the Net Ranking that lowers SU. We won last night and moved to 38 from 41. This has a bigger impact then the polls/record for the NCAA.

NET RANK

Interesting. I don't pay much attention to this stuff, and just did what made sense to me. This is what the NCAA lists on their website as to how these rankings work. The link says the info is from 2021; not sure if it is current.

The explanation of 'how it works' is a crap ton of fluff, and only 2 sentences that add any value to the explanation, and that value is minimal at best.

• The NET rankings are used for the NCAA tournament. The rankings are released every day in an effort to be transparent but the NET rankings in January carry little significance during the selection process in March.
• The NET rankings do not include any preseason data, as many other popular metrics like KenPom and BPI do.
• Today (Jan. 4) is the 40th day of the season. In a typical year, teams will have played 10 to 12 games 40 days into the season. The average number of games played is slightly lower this year, and several teams have played fewer than five games thus far.
• Despite the unusual scheduling circumstances, the NET rankings are largely aligned with other metrics that the selection committee tracks. There are certainly outliers involving teams that have played very few games, but as more data becomes available with the addition of more games, the more stable the NET rankings will become.
• The NCAA entertained the idea of not including teams that have yet to play five Division I opponents but ultimately decided to include everyone, recognizing that all teams will soon reach that threshold.
• As always, the NET rankings do not include games played against non-Division I opponents.
• After two seasons of DI men's basketball using the NET, it was tweaked in advance of this season, simplifying it to a two-component system. The first is the Team Value Index, a results-based feature that rewards teams for beating quality opponents, particularly away from home. This component was an original part of the NET. The other is an efficiency rating, which is adjusted for strength of opponent and location (home/away/neutral) across all games played.
• With teams playing home games with limited or no fans, the committee and staff is studying the impact that’s having on home-court advantage compared to a typical year.
• While both the men’s and women’s NET rankings share high-level goals and individual components, the NET algorithm used in each is different.
• The machine learning model developed for each sport utilizes only that sport’s data. The women’s model uses only women’s game data, while the men’s model only uses men’s game data.
• The weights for each are trained using the historical data from the respective sports.

 

[OrangeXtreme]

 

[Cheriehoop]

Look at Notre Dame in this current seeding prediction. Syracuse (21-4 and 11-3 in conference) vs Notre Dame (18-6 and 8-5 in conference) are both seeded 5th. This despite Syracuse beating Notre Dame head to head twice. How? Confusing to me.

2024 NCAA women's basketball tournament predictions after first top 16 reveal

Autumn Johnson gives her NCAA women's basketball tournament bracket predictions following the first in-season top 16 committee rankings.

www.ncaa.com

 

[Domedude3]

Agree. Continue to say this team is criminally underrated.

Miami is in everyone’s bracket. They were a 9 seed in the ESPN one released yesterday. You don’t just go on the road against a solid NCAA team and completely dominate them unless you are something special.

We better start showing up in the top ten soon. We better start showing up as a 2 or a 3 seed soon. This is getting ridiculous.

Miami’s athleticism is unbelievable. Coach has to unleash those kids and not run as many sets. But agreed, they’re a good team that also destroyed NC State.