SU basketball's 101 vacated wins will include memorable 2006 Big East title

[orange79]

I dreamt this

Well, yeah, of course you did. That kind of stuff just doesn't happen.

 

[orangehomer]

I was there for the gmac win against pittat MSG. nothing will ever change that moment for me. incredible run by an incredible player. the ncaa

 

[realorange]

But the NCAA said it didn't happen! Who is an Orange fan to believe? :rolling:

 

[Trueblue25]

Joe knew

 

[Shark58]

now I need to go out and buy some '06 BET Champs Merch

thanks NCAA

 

[Bayside44]

This is the dumbest thing I've seen all day, and that's saying a lot.

 

[Briancuse]

So you are saying we didn't win ten *cking games that year?

The Depaul game didn't happen, whoohoo.

 

[jimsonjunction]

It took them this long to figure it out? After levying the punishment, it should've taken all of two hours. Nope. 19 months.

I have to stop trying to figure out why and when the NCAA does what it does. Nothing ever makes sense.

 

[RandygoCuse]

There are pictures, so it happened

 

[Ragman2000]

When Emmert takes a dump, his head implodes.

 

[Jeremy L.]

How long until we get these wins back?

 

[cuseinseattle]

You reach a point where you have no respect for the NCAA and nothing they do even affects you anymore. That is where I'm at. My only hope is this makes JAB mad enough that he coaches for like 3-4 extra years.

 

[SBU72]

Two questions, do the 101 wins become loses for using disqualified players and if not, why are not the loses removed? Second and not to be snarky but who on the team supposedly violated NCAA rules to the point they should have been ineligible? I'm not trying to point fingers just wondering. And whom ever it is I will not think less of. Hey sh!& happens and from the reports, with perhaps the exception of FAB, nobody did anything exceedingly wrong.

 

[br801]

I simply choose to not accept this ruling, knowing full well these wins will eventually be restored to the record. the NCAA and the hypocrisy.

 

[BonaCuse]

Two questions, do the 101 wins become loses for using disqualified players and if not, why are not the loses removed? Second and not to be snarky but who on the team supposedly violated NCAA rules to the point they should have been ineligible? I'm not trying to point fingers just wondering. And whom ever it is I will not think less of. Hey sh!& happens and from the reports, with perhaps the exception of FAB, nobody did anything exceedingly wrong.

"To record vacancies for regular season contests, the wins but not the losses of the penalized team are dropped from its overall record. This affects season records, all-time records and coaches' records.

The won-lost records for each of the opposing teams are not changed when games are vacated.''

 

[OrangeXtreme]

Syracuse, N.Y. — Syracuse head coach Jim Boeheim addressed the idea that the school will be vacating 101 victories during an appearance on the Doug Gottlieb Show on Tuesday, a day after the NCAA revealed the five seasons that the Orange would lose at least one victory.

Boeheim said that the 101 vacated games stem from the NCAA's findings regarding impermissible work done by members of the academic support staff and director of basketball operation Stan Kissel, as well as money a player received for giving a speech at the Oneida YMCA. Boeheim said the money was paid back but the player had not been re-instated.

Syracuse did not vacate any victories because the basketball program didn't follow the school's policy regarding failed drug tests, a third finding by the NCAA...

Syracuse coach Jim Boeheim addresses vacated wins during appearance on Doug Gottlieb Show (PS: Carlson)

 

[cuseinseattle]

That YMCA speech cost us 45 games. Did I hear that right. So the media guide will show which kids were ineligible.

 

[orangefog]

That YMCA speech cost us 45 games. Did I hear that right. So the media guide will show which kids were ineligible.

That must have been one hell of a speech.

 

[SUintheVille]

45 games for 1 speech. Geez, UNC should be exiled to Pluto!

 

[GFTakedown]

Miami Sanctions
Bylaw 11 Impermissable payment to coaches (Booster $$)
Bylaw 12 Amateurism of Athletes (Playing ineligible players- Benefits)
Bylaw 13 Improper Recruiting Activity (Booster $$)
Bylaw 16 Extra Benefits to athletes (estimated at $2,000,000)

Results:
Football withdrew from bowl consideration
Entire athletic program on 3 year probation
Loss of 9 scholarships in 3 years for football, loss of 1 scholarship for 3 years in bball
Recruits only get 1 complimentary ticket on visits
Basketball coach suspended 5 games
3 assistants blacklisted for 2 years
No wins vacated


Syracuse Sanctions
Bylaw 10 Ethical conduct (Banned drug Policy)
Bylaw 12 Amateurism of athletes (Playing ineligible players- YMCA internship)
Bylaw 14 Eligibility (Academics assisted to players)
Bylaw 16 Extra Benefits to athletes (estimated at $8000 total- YMCA internship)

Results:
5 year probation entire program
Return of money from Big East Tourney 2011-2013
Basketball coach suspended 9 games
Loss of 3 scholarships in basketball for 3 years
101 wins vacated by basketball
11 wins vacated in football

Just the facts! NCAA is a joke! I hope that when UNC has been passed over for sanctions then Syracuse should sue the NCAA for improper administration and governing of the bylaws to each member of the association.

 

[jordoo]

That YMCA speech cost us 45 games. Did I hear that right. So the media guide will show which kids were ineligible.

Its so ridiculous that its funny at this point, I'm not even upset anymore. The NCAA's investigation and penalties to SU has so many holes in it, its like I'm listening to a story made up by a four year old.

 

[sutomcat]

It is ridiculous. I could at least understand somewhat if the reason the wins were taken away was because of drug policy violations. Players routinely get small benefits that they shouldn't have gotten. When the school finds out, the benefit is returned, the school self reports and the NCAA forgives them. Or at worst gives them a minor penalty (perhaps a player is suspended for a game).

For some reason, the NCAA decided to really hammer the head coach for Syracuse and abandoned decades of precedents to punish him on a personal level.

You just can't do that when you are supposed to be an impartial, objective body empowered to review the behavior of member institutions.

The wins will be reinstated. The NCAA will be humiliated. Another nail in the coffin of an organization that failed and needs to be rebuilt or replaced.

 

[Cusefan0307]

So much for all those people who were saying the drug policy cost us games.

 

[MSOrange]

It is ridiculous. I could at least understand somewhat if the reason the wins were taken away was because of drug policy violations. Players routinely get small benefits that they shouldn't have gotten. When the school finds out, the benefit is returned, the school self reports and the NCAA forgives them. Or at worst gives them a minor penalty (perhaps a player is suspended for a game).

For some reason, the NCAA decided to really hammer the head coach for Syracuse and abandoned decades of precedents to punish him on a personal level.

You just can't do that when you are supposed to be an impartial, objective body empowered to review the behavior of member institutions.

The wins will be reinstated. The NCAA will be humiliated. Another nail in the coffin of an organization that failed and needs to be rebuilt or replaced.

That's where I'm at. I could understand if the wins were taken away because of the drug policy and I get the ones for the academic issues (depending on what happens at UNC also) - but for that????

 

[OrangeXtreme]

That must have been one hell of a speech.

They didn't know.