SU is 22nd in combined average football/basketball attendance rankings for last year

[Millhouse]

I did this fast so it could be all wrong.

Added each schools total football and basketball attendance and divided by the total number of basketball and football games

(I didn't have basketball numbers for teams below 100th in the country so I used the #100 team's totals for those)

Here's the list. We come in 22nd. Obviously that has a lot to do with basketball capacity but look at how much the factories are brought down by basketball. If they had a huge appetite for college basketball, they'd build bigger gyms.

Rank Team Combined Average
1 Tennessee 40,839
2 Nebraska 38,602
3 Ohio St. 38,409
4 Michigan 38,242
5 Penn St. 36,524
6 Wisconsin 36,222
7 LSU 35,971
8 Alabama 34,773
9 Georgia 33,456
10 Michigan St. 33,022
11 South Carolina 32,782
12 Kentucky 32,726
13 Oklahoma 32,275
14 Texas 31,963
15 Texas A&M 31,476
16 Florida 31,097
17 Auburn 31,050
18 North Carolina 29,606
19 Clemson 29,253
20 Iowa 29,056
21 Louisville 28,967
22 Syracuse 28,003
23 Florida St. 27,845
24 Arkansas 27,759
25 BYU 27,311
26 Iowa St. 25,830
27 UCLA 25,695
28 Southern California 25,692
29 North Carolina St. 25,537
30 Notre Dame 25,254
31 Arizona 25,126
32 Washington 24,887
33 Missouri 24,753
34 Kansas St. 24,371
35 Ole Miss 23,740
36 West Virginia 23,474
37 Illinois 22,838
38 Indiana 22,377
39 Mississippi St. 22,285
40 Minnesota 22,178
41 Virginia 21,467
42 Virginia Tech 21,260
43 Kansas 21,209
44 Utah 21,058
45 Miami (FL) 21,039
46 Maryland 20,923
47 Oklahoma St. 20,576
48 Oregon 19,997
49 Texas Tech 19,177
50 Memphis 18,899
51 Arizona St. 18,783
52 Pittsburgh 18,777
53 Purdue 18,449
54 TCU 18,440
55 San Diego St. 18,245
56 Stanford 18,069
57 Rutgers 18,005
58 California 17,993
59 Georgia Tech 17,742
60 East Carolina 17,146
61 New Mexico 16,675
62 Baylor 16,665
63 Colorado 16,607
64 Vanderbilt 16,387
65 Oregon St. 16,277
66 Northwestern 15,790
67 UCF 15,054
68 UConn 15,036
69 Boston College 14,957
70 Fresno St. 14,796
71 Duke 14,785
72 Boise St. 14,684
73 Cincinnati 14,210
74 Wake Forest 14,067
75 UTEP 13,890
76 South Fla. 13,765
77 Houston 12,970
78 Washington St. 12,948
79 Army West Point 12,922
80 UNLV 12,736
81 Marshall 12,687
82 Navy 12,458
83 Utah St. 12,242
84 Air Force 12,158
85 UTSA 11,983
86 Hawaii 11,891
87 Colorado St. 11,683
88 La.-Lafayette 11,443
89 Tulane 11,214
90 Arkansas St. 11,168
91 Nevada 10,744
92 Ohio 10,633
93 SMU 10,590
94 Southern Miss. 10,532
95 UAB 10,262
96 Temple 9,993
97 Texas St. 9,890
98 Buffalo 9,831
99 Tulsa 9,604
100 Toledo 9,574
101 Wyoming 9,500
102 North Texas 9,491
103 Louisiana Tech 9,183
104 South Ala. 8,944
105 Middle Tenn. 8,933
106 Rice 8,790
107 Troy 8,740
108 La.-Monroe 8,671
109 Central Mich. 8,602
110 Western Ky. 8,602
111 Massachusetts 8,536
112 Miami (OH) 8,482
113 Bowling Green 8,278
114 Georgia St. 8,212
115 Western Mich. 8,017
116 San Jose St. 7,871
117 Eastern Mich. 7,859
118 Kent St. 7,773
119 New Mexico St. 7,747
120 FIU 7,724
121 Fla. Atlantic 7,622
122 Northern Ill. 7,474
123 Idaho 7,296
124 Ball St. 6,527
125 Akron 6,461

 

[SUFan44]

Maybe this is why the AD doesn't really care too much about 30-40K in the Dome for 6 dates a year. Because they know they'll make most of it up with basketball.

Not every ticket is equal value, but interesting list though.

 

[longtimefan]

Maybe this is why the AD doesn't really care too much about 30-40K in the Dome for 6 dates a year. Because they know they'll make most of it up with basketball.

Not every ticket is equal value, but interesting list though.

The respective costs of SU's football and basketball tickets have converged over the past decade.

 

[NineOneSeven]

And I would like to know the student body # for each school, as well as some of the closest "major" cities.

 

[Fjoinkay]

Doesn't look to me, and I could be missing one or two, that any of the top 21 are private schools. Looks like SU is the top or near the top of the private schools. I think A&M might be a private school and possibly Auburn is a private school but I'm not sure. Either way, look at all of those big state schools at the top. Just about every person living in those areas has a family member that went to that school, and so just about everyone at one time or another goes to games. I think it just becomes a bigger part of the culture.

 

[Millhouse]

Doesn't look to me, and I could be missing one or two, that any of the top 21 are private schools. Looks like SU is the top or near the top of the private schools. I think A&M might be a private school and possibly Auburn is a private school but I'm not sure. Either way, look at all of those big state schools at the top. Just about every person living in those areas has a family member that went to that school, and so just about everyone at one time or another goes to games. I think it just becomes a bigger part of the culture.

if you take each school's rank in basketball attendance and average it with their rank in football attendance, SU's score is #20th in the country. Football no shows are bad but the actual "attendance" numbers are average

Here's that list up to Syracuse
Ohio St.
Nebraska
Tennessee
Wisconsin
Michigan
Kentucky
Arkansas
Michigan St.
North Carolina
BYU
Iowa
Louisville
Texas
Alabama
North Carolina St.
Oklahoma
South Carolina
Florida
LSU
Syracuse

random note Creighton gets big basketball crowds, wow 17k

If SU basketball's attendance were halved, they'd still be 31st

 

[Fjoinkay]

Yeah, this is why SU must keep the dome, at least for hoops. I'm beginning to think they should build an outdoor football stadium that seats 35-40,ooo. Maybe they could put it in or near the location where they held FanFest. People could tailgate all over the area and easily walk to the game. More tailgating around the stadium would attract more students especially if the food is good and the beer is cheap.

 

[Millhouse]

I'm trying to figure out which other schools are like us. I know this is a mess. I wonder how much SU talks to other schools in the same boat.

Kansas 7th in basketball, 37th in football
Indiana 8th bball, 54th football

others

Kentucky and Louisville are 30th and 39th in football.
North Carolina 35th in football
San Diego state is 27th in basketball, 71st in football
Arizona 17th bball, 42nd football

There are big swings for a lot of these schools. very few are highly ranked in both. Nebraska is suprisingly at the top. The lowest ranking they have is 10th. We are 34th in this measure.

Nebraska
Tennessee
Ohio St.
Wisconsin
Michigan St.
Iowa
Arkansas
Michigan
Kentucky
BYU
South Carolina
Texas
North Carolina
Oklahoma
North Carolina St.
Florida
Kansas St.
Louisville
West Virginia
Alabama
Iowa St.
Arizona
Minnesota
Maryland
LSU
Utah
California
Indiana
Illinois
Missouri
Penn St.
Pittsburgh
Oklahoma St.
Syracuse

 

[Millhouse]

disclaimer: there is about a 51% chance these numbers are actually right

 

[OrangeinOmaha]

random note Creighton gets big basketball crowds, wow 17k

We were expecting a drop without McDermott and a Missouri Valley recruited team playing Big East teams but stayed in the top 10 for attendance. They have done a really good job making Creighton Basketball a HUGE deal in Omaha.

 

[Fjoinkay]

The gist seems to be that SU represents pretty well, but it could be better. A modest increase in football using past numbers looks good in comparison to other schools especially when combining hoops. The silver benches in the dome and the camera angles for football make the empty seats in the dome more apparent than most outdoor college stadiums.

 

[GoSU96]

I did this fast so it could be all wrong.

Added each schools total football and basketball attendance and divided by the total number of basketball and football games

(I didn't have basketball numbers for teams below 100th in the country so I used the #100 team's totals for those)

Here's the list. We come in 22nd. Obviously that has a lot to do with basketball capacity but look at how much the factories are brought down by basketball. If they had a huge appetite for college basketball, they'd build bigger gyms.

Rank Team Combined Average
1 Tennessee 40,839
2 Nebraska 38,602
3 Ohio St. 38,409
4 Michigan 38,242
5 Penn St. 36,524
6 Wisconsin 36,222
7 LSU 35,971
8 Alabama 34,773
9 Georgia 33,456
10 Michigan St. 33,022
11 South Carolina 32,782
12 Kentucky 32,726
13 Oklahoma 32,275
14 Texas 31,963
15 Texas A&M 31,476
16 Florida 31,097
17 Auburn 31,050
18 North Carolina 29,606
19 Clemson 29,253
20 Iowa 29,056
21 Louisville 28,967
22 Syracuse 28,003
23 Florida St. 27,845
24 Arkansas 27,759
25 BYU 27,311
26 Iowa St. 25,830
27 UCLA 25,695
28 Southern California 25,692
29 North Carolina St. 25,537
30 Notre Dame 25,254
31 Arizona 25,126
32 Washington 24,887
33 Missouri 24,753
34 Kansas St. 24,371
35 Ole Miss 23,740
36 West Virginia 23,474
37 Illinois 22,838
38 Indiana 22,377
39 Mississippi St. 22,285
40 Minnesota 22,178
41 Virginia 21,467
42 Virginia Tech 21,260
43 Kansas 21,209
44 Utah 21,058
45 Miami (FL) 21,039
46 Maryland 20,923
47 Oklahoma St. 20,576
48 Oregon 19,997
49 Texas Tech 19,177
50 Memphis 18,899
51 Arizona St. 18,783
52 Pittsburgh 18,777
53 Purdue 18,449
54 TCU 18,440
55 San Diego St. 18,245
56 Stanford 18,069
57 Rutgers 18,005
58 California 17,993
59 Georgia Tech 17,742
60 East Carolina 17,146
61 New Mexico 16,675
62 Baylor 16,665
63 Colorado 16,607
64 Vanderbilt 16,387
65 Oregon St. 16,277
66 Northwestern 15,790
67 UCF 15,054
68 UConn 15,036
69 Boston College 14,957
70 Fresno St. 14,796
71 Duke 14,785
72 Boise St. 14,684
73 Cincinnati 14,210
74 Wake Forest 14,067
75 UTEP 13,890
76 South Fla. 13,765
77 Houston 12,970
78 Washington St. 12,948
79 Army West Point 12,922
80 UNLV 12,736
81 Marshall 12,687
82 Navy 12,458
83 Utah St. 12,242
84 Air Force 12,158
85 UTSA 11,983
86 Hawaii 11,891
87 Colorado St. 11,683
88 La.-Lafayette 11,443
89 Tulane 11,214
90 Arkansas St. 11,168
91 Nevada 10,744
92 Ohio 10,633
93 SMU 10,590
94 Southern Miss. 10,532
95 UAB 10,262
96 Temple 9,993
97 Texas St. 9,890
98 Buffalo 9,831
99 Tulsa 9,604
100 Toledo 9,574
101 Wyoming 9,500
102 North Texas 9,491
103 Louisiana Tech 9,183
104 South Ala. 8,944
105 Middle Tenn. 8,933
106 Rice 8,790
107 Troy 8,740
108 La.-Monroe 8,671
109 Central Mich. 8,602
110 Western Ky. 8,602
111 Massachusetts 8,536
112 Miami (OH) 8,482
113 Bowling Green 8,278
114 Georgia St. 8,212
115 Western Mich. 8,017
116 San Jose St. 7,871
117 Eastern Mich. 7,859
118 Kent St. 7,773
119 New Mexico St. 7,747
120 FIU 7,724
121 Fla. Atlantic 7,622
122 Northern Ill. 7,474
123 Idaho 7,296
124 Ball St. 6,527
125 Akron 6,461

SU is truly a dual sport school. One of the best mixes of revenue streams in the P5. It's how the school is able to compete. And it's something the school should take pride in.

 

[Cheriehoop]

SU is truly a dual sport school. One of the best mixes of revenue streams in the P5. It's how the school is able to compete. And it's something the school should take pride in.

Lacrosse has to be a nice little bonus too.

 

[LAOrange]

Lacrosse has to be a nice little bonus too.

Add lacrosse and field hockey and we're top ten baby.

 

[GoSU96]

Lacrosse has to be a nice little bonus too.

Lax actually doesn't carry it's own weight, at least to the reports to the Dept of Education. It's the highest grossing program in the sport but also the most expensive according to that disclosure.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

We were expecting a drop without McDermott and a Missouri Valley recruited team playing Big East teams but stayed in the top 10 for attendance. They have done a really good job making Creighton Basketball a HUGE deal in Omaha.

I used to travel to Omaha a lot for work at a previous employer. Sneaky cool city. I really liked it.

Also, you've got Pepperjax. Huge bonus. That's a franchise that really needs to expand westward.