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SU suggests it may punish students for failing to intervene in 'bias-motivated' incidents

So who should the students report the admissions department to?

This article is about Yale, but I'm pretty certain you could pick a university at random (including SU) and get the same result.

I'm half light-hearted, but only half so. Creating an affirmative duty to report bias incidents is a slipprty slope, especially since the school is almost certainly committing some well-known and overt violations in some form or fashion. Who is to say the vierwer understood what was going on? Who is to say the viewer interpreted the event as a bias incident? Who is to say that the viewer didn't think that the situation was "handled?" (I know that someone is going to say always assume that the situation isn't handled, but would you really have to report an incident if DPS officers are present? ...10 feet away? ...100 feet away? ...1,000 feet away? Where does it end?)

Should all the students involved in these sit-ins be reported? If so, every student had effective notice to them, so any student that doesn't report the activities is in violation of the new rule on day #1. If those protests are somehow exempt from the realm of compulsary reporting, then why? If the reason is another other than timing (activities happened before the rule went into effect), then how is overtly asking for special and favored treatment based on protected classes not a "bias incident?" And, if those protests really do/did constitute "bias incidents," then does the school really want to go down that path?

I'm pretty sure this policy is a nod to placate those student/faculty factions who have been radicalized to expect free handouts, and I'm pretty sure it will exist in name only. Sure a kid here or there will get snagged by the policy if the school was looking for a reason to punish them anyway, but my guess is that it will have no real direct effect on 99% of college experiences. Still, the messaging and optics are horrible and probably counter-productive, and optics matter in an academic environment where minds are shaped. IMHO, the school is better served preparing students for the real world, where some people will surely hurt their feelings and not care, than it is flaunting it's private status and engaging in activities that would 100% be violations of 1st Amendement rights if they were performed at public universities. It should instill an atmosphere conducive to cultivating a blind meritocracy, not create some bizarre race, gender, ertc.-based big brother program.
 
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Still, the messaging and optics are horrible and probably counter-productive, and optics matter in an academic environment where minds are shaped. IMHO, the school is better served preparing students for the real world, where some people will surely hurt their feelings and not care, than it is flaunting it's private status and engaging in activities that would 100% be violations of 1st Amendement rights if they were performed at public universities.
Exactly.
 
Which is why I loved the Seinfeld finale so much. It was perfect and weaved in all the extras over the years.

It was a fitting end, even if it disappointed so many.

In real life, a law like this is, of course, absurd.
The Seinfeld finale was stupid. It also failed a bigger test of comedy. It was thoroughly unfunny. The producers and writers were trying to hit a big HR in that episode and instead struck out every time. For TV comedy...and such a great show for many years..it was the ultimate swing and miss. The reason people were disappointed in the last episode was very valid. It was not funny, it was a foolish, big flop.
 
So who should the students report the admissions department to?

This article is about Yale, but I'm pretty certain you could pick a university at random (including SU) and get the same result.

I'm half light-hearted, but only half so. Creating an affirmative duty to report bias incidents is a slipprty slope, especially since the school is almost certainly committing some well-known and overt violations in some form or fashion. Who is to say the vierwer understood what was going on? Who is to say the viewer interpreted the event as a bias incident? Who is to say that the viewer didn't think that the situation was "handled?" (I know that someone is going to say always assume that the situation isn't handled, but would you really have to report an incident if DPS officers are present? ...10 feet away? ...100 feet away? ...1,000 feet away? Where does it end?)

Should all the students involved in these sit-ins be reported? If so, every student had effective notice to them, so any student that doesn't report the activities is in violation of the new rule on day #1. If those protests are somehow exempt from the realm of compulsary reporting, then why? If the reason is another other than timing (activities happened before the rule went into effect), then how is overtly asking for special and favored treatment based on protected classes not a "bias incident?" And, if those protests really do/did constitute "bias incidents," then does the school really want to go down that path?

I'm pretty sure this policy is a nod to placate those student/faculty factions who have been radicalized to expect free handouts, and I'm pretty sure it will exist in name only. Sure a kid here or there will get snagged by the policy if the school was looking for a reason to punish them anyway, but my guess is that it will have no real direct effect on 99% of college experiences. Still, the messaging and optics are horrible and probably counter-productive, and optics matter in an academic environment where minds are shaped. IMHO, the school is better served preparing students for the real world, where some people will surely hurt their feelings and not care, than it is flaunting it's private status and engaging in activities that would 100% be violations of 1st Amendement rights if they were performed at public universities. It should instill an atmosphere conducive to cultivating a blind meritocracy, not create some bizarre race, gender, ertc.-based big brother program.


It's not slippery, we're already at the bottom of the slope.
 
The Seinfeld finale was stupid. It also failed a bigger test of comedy. It was thoroughly unfunny. The producers and writers were trying to hit a big HR in that episode and instead struck out every time. For TV comedy...and such a great show for many years..it was the ultimate swing and miss. The reason people were disappointed in the last episode was very valid. It was not funny, it was a foolish, big flop.

Are you trolling me?
 
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Jerry Seinfeld agreed to do that Seinfeld season on Curb because he wasn’t happy with the Finale.
So it’s not an out of the box opinion:
 
I think that quite often. And then something surprises me.

The POTUS seems to have mining equipment at his constant disposal, and continues to discover lower and lower levels.
 
Jerry Seinfeld agreed to do that Seinfeld season on Curb because he wasn’t happy with the Finale.
So it’s not an out of the box opinion:

Eh, Larry David wrote it and liked it. Seinfeld liked it for awhile. But changed his mind later. Probably because of all the grief he took.

To each his own. I’m probably one of the only people who liked it. I’m ok on that wall.
 
The POTUS seems to have mining equipment at his constant disposal, and continues to discover lower and lower levels.

So do those who troll him. We’re stuck in a game with no winners.

And off to the OT board we go, if we’re not there already.
 
On the topic of over-politicizing college/college athletics by extreme groups, what ever happened to the push to remove Jim Brown statues? Did it die out (I hope), or is it ongoing?
 
Way to read the actual release the "article" is "pulling from." The language in question is this:

The University also revised the code to make clear when bystanders and accomplices can be held accountable.

While what this means is thus far unclear, it is extremely unlikely to require putting one's self into any danger.

Also, this release is a month old, and the article is from a site that was founded by someone who has been advancing Biden-family conspiracy theories.
 

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