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Message: [QUOTE="PeteCalvin, post: 698308, member: 439"] As a born and raised Syracusan and a die hard Jets fan who lived with Bills fans during college, the same Bill fans that hated Syracuse and took digs because all we had was "a college team", I reserve the right to call it a hole. :) Actually, Syracuse, Buffalo and Utica are somewhat kindred spirits. All are heavily blue collar, considered desolate wastelands of snow, and really are rust belt in every sense of the word. I always considered Rochester and Albany to be a bit "uppity", as they seemed to place themselves higher than Syracuse and Buffalo. All I know is that Rochester has always had the second highest crime rate in the state next to NYC. That's something to be proud of, Rochester. ;). I could never really hate on them too much, though, because there were a lot of SU fans there. Albany? All I think of when I hear that name is the 2003 Final Four and horrible politicians. Albany is wannabee NYC. [/QUOTE]