OrangeXtreme
The Mayor of Dewitt
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The skeptics were right. Dior Johnson will never play a minute of hoops in John Swofford's ACC.
I think Wildhack will be considered for the post. He checks almost every box, well other than allegiance to Tobacco Road.
Agree he would be a great hire for the ACC. I think John sees how much he is needed at Syracuse though and will elect to stay and finish the job of rebuilding the athletic department at SU.I think Wildhack will be considered for the post. He checks almost every box, well other than allegiance to Tobacco Road.
Hopefully there will be a few Septentrional candidates ... tired of the tobacco road dominance in conference leadership.Agree he would be a great hire for the ACC. I think John sees how much he is needed at Syracuse though and will elect to stay and finish the job of rebuilding the athletic department at SU.
Septentrional. I like that.
Swofford botched ACC expansion (in several ways). Swofford botched ACC TV negotiations (in several ways).
Those were really his only two important tasks.
Seemed like a nice guy but I would have to say he was not an effective commissioner. I hope he has a good retirement.
I disagree completely. You don't formally invite schools to join the conference unless you know they are going to be voted in. That is all on him. This was an unforgivable gaffe and I think he would admit it himself. I know he made statements afterwardsHe did a pretty great job of holding the conference together after Maryland. I'm not sure it's fair to blame him for that first round of expansion being mucked up by internal Virginia politics.
He didn’t botch expansion.Septentrional. I like that.
Swofford botched ACC expansion (in several ways). Swofford botched ACC TV negotiations (in several ways).
Those were really his only two important tasks.
Seemed like a nice guy but I would have to say he was not an effective commissioner. I hope he has a good retirement.
Maryland left because their AD Debbie Yow bankrupted their AD and they were going to have to cut a lot of varsity sports. Maryland can’t put student activities fees in their cost to attend their university. That is how a lot of public schools see Rutgers fill the holes of their athletic department.I disagree completely. You don't formally invite schools to join the conference unless you know they are going to be voted in. That is all on him. This was an unforgivable gaffe and I think he would admit it himself. I know he made statements afterwards
The many terrible decisions that were made with TV contracts lay at his feet.
He had a chance to sew up ownership of the Northeast and botched it.
Maryland hopes Pittsburgh, Syracuse aren’t the final ACC additions
Now that the Atlantic Coast Conference has announced the addition of Pittsburgh and Syracuse, there are at least two members that believe the ACC should seriously consider taking the next step by a…www.baltimoresun.com
He couldn't get a GOR in place to lock in the membership and ensure no one bolted either.
Good guy. Awful commissioner.
You don't publicly invite a school to your conference when you don't have the votes to make it happen.He didn’t botch expansion.
UNC and Duke were no votes for a conference more than 10 teams.
They supported adding Miami.
They cared about the round robin basketball.
Swofford couldn’t force Duke and UNC presidents to change their positions.
That gave all the leverage to whatever of the remaining 7 ACC schools wanted to get any expansion beyond 10 teams.
That isn’t Swofford’s fault that VA governor Warner threatened UVA to take to care of VPI.
Swofford didn’t mess that expansion it was more Syracuse got screwed by Marc Warner and then when the 12th spot was between Syracuse and Boston College our AD Jake Crouthamel didn’t want to play two faced to the Big East like BC Fr. Leahy did and play hardball.
Our administration went back to the Big East and pledged unity instead of being two faced. If Cantor and Gross were in charge in 2003 instead of Shaw and Crouthamel they would have fought BC hard for that 12th spot.
It was our own doing.
Septentrional. I like that.
Swofford botched ACC expansion (in several ways). Swofford botched ACC TV negotiations (in several ways).
Those were really his only two important tasks.
Seemed like a nice guy but I would have to say he was not an effective commissioner. I hope he has a good retirement.
Not everything was botched, and (while TomC can speak for himself) I didn't see his post as claiming that. That's clear from the article he cited. However, not only were many strategies were not well thought out, Tom didn't even mention Raycom - which was a disaster. It brought nothing to the table for fans except an expensive intermediary that thumbed its nose at Northern ACC markets. Raycom had a habit of selling media rights to carriers without any obligation to broadcast - which should have been prohibited by the league (e.g, MSG+). The only reason I can see for its involvement was to enrich Wofford's son. So overall ... happy to see him go.He has a network, and got it in the age of cord-cutting. Moved the ACC tournament around to major markets, expanded into the northeast, finally. Has a conference where privates can compete with publics across the board, and is sitting on a lot of trophies. I hated more than anyone what happened in 2003 but anyone would've gotten rolled there when Warner played his Hokie card.
You don't publicly invite a school to your conference when you don't have the votes to make it happen.
That is the definition of botch. The job of the commissioner is to do the backroom politics, get temperatures, line up votes, and then execute.
He failed. Much like your post failed.
You are confused. Duke wanted the ACC to add 2 more schools, in addition to SU and Pitt. Please read the link to the article from the Baltimore Sun I just provided.
The ACC had the chance to lock up the east and keep the B1G stuck with an isolated Penn State. They didn't. The B1G took advantage of Swofford's incompetence.
This says nothing about his ability to negotiate media contracts, which was also awful.
He wasn't completely incompetent. He managed to get Miami, BC, SU and Pitt in and getting UL to replace UMd was a decent recovery from an awful mistake. His hair was always well combed and clean.
Not all the blame lies at his feet. The ACC presidents (and maybe ADs) had some blame too. But a commissioner's job is to lead and to convince his schools to follow. He wasn't good at this.
Not everything was botched, and (while TomC can speak for himself) I didn't see his post as claiming that. That's clear from the article he cited. But he didn't even mention Raycom which was a disaster ... a disservice to the ACC, miserable for fans but lucre for Wofford's son. So overall ... happy to see him go.
TbDuke didn't want 16 schools in 2003. Adding RU and UConn when we came was objectionable to, well us.
This is the point.Duke didn't want 16 schools in 2003. Adding RU and UConn when we came was objectionable to, well us.
There's a better chance JB gets elected mayor of Greensboro than a Yankee becoming ACC commish.Anyone who thinks the new Commissioner will be from above the M-D line is kidding themselves, IMO.