Syracuse/ACC article

[ILMOrange]

Long time Orange fan trapped in Wilmington, NC since 2004. Sadly had to give up my season tickets in my beloved Section 320 when we moved. I've lurked for years, but found this article in my local paper interesting enough to post. This author's opinion represents just about every UNC fan I come accross down here. Every conversation goes the same way with UNC fan...

1. We don't need these northern schools
2. SU and Pitt don't add any value to football
3. Our basketball league was just fine without them
4. Greensboro is a wonderful place

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20111008/COLUMNIST/111009823?p=2&tc=pg

 

[Cusefan95]

The difference between the ACC and the Big East is that the ACC is no longer hostage to the provincial thinking of their North Carolina schools, while the Big East is still held hostage by Providence. It must suck for North Carolina in that they no longer have the clout to haul the rest of the league around by its sack and need to learn how to play nicely with others...but that's where they're at...

 

[dollarbill44]

Greensboro is just fine - if you like truckstops and motels.

 

[PeteCalvin]

They need to get over themselves. UNC basketball may have been fine without SU and Pitt, but, quite frankly, the ACC as a basketball conference lost a lot of it's luster. The conference needs these Yankee teams, and we need them. The commissioner and presidents knew that. Sooner or later the fans will realize that too.

I think Greensboro is a nice place. Been there. However, it is not NYC or MSG. That's not a slight, just a statement of fact. I would rather watch a tournament game in NYC in March than in Greensboro. I'm not there to golf. I'm there to watch hoops.

 

[OrangeHeel]

Thanks for the article, but the author's opinion doesn't faze me much and I don't doubt she knows good BBQ.

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[kingottoiii]

I find it interesting how UNC fans think so much of their FB program. The last time they made a real Bowl was the Peach in 2001. The last time the ended a year ranked was 1997. The last time they won the ACC was 1980 (FSU did not join until 1992 BTW). The last time they had 9 Ws in a season was 1997. Pitt and SU have been a lot better programs over that time, and before that time as well.

 

[Guinness]

I don't blame the diehard ACC fans. They are like those of us who miss the old days of the real BE. Much like us they are witnessing their conference under go dramatic changes and they don't like it any more than we did the destroying of the BE.

 

[KaiserUEO]

I find it interesting how UNC fans think so much of their FB program. The last time they made a real Bowl was the Peach in 2001. The last time the ended a year ranked was 1997. The last time they won the ACC was 1980 (FSU did not join until 1992 BTW). The last time they had 9 Ws in a season was 1997. Pitt and SU have been a lot better programs over that time, and before that time as well.

the last time they won the acc was 1980???!!!

wow.

that team had a maniac wearing #98 running around just killing people.

the next year he would sport #56.......

 

[ImperialOrange]

Must be tough to have your opinion be right all the time. She's obviously earned far more room to speak her mind than Coach Boeheim.

I'm going out on a limb and guessing she's never been to NYC.

 

[Bayside44]

Long time Orange fan trapped in Wilmington, NC since 2004. Sadly had to give up my season tickets in my beloved Section 320 when we moved. I've lurked for years, but found this article in my local paper interesting enough to post. This author's opinion represents just about every UNC fan I come accross down here. Every conversation goes the same way with UNC fan...

1. We don't need these northern schools
2. SU and Pitt don't add any value to football
3. Our basketball league was just fine without them
4. Greensboro is a wonderful place

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20111008/COLUMNIST/111009823?p=2&tc=pg

There are rubes in the north, and rubes in the south. Oh well.

 

[sutomcat]

Long time Orange fan trapped in Wilmington, NC since 2004. Sadly had to give up my season tickets in my beloved Section 320 when we moved. I've lurked for years, but found this article in my local paper interesting enough to post. This author's opinion represents just about every UNC fan I come accross down here. Every conversation goes the same way with UNC fan...

1. We don't need these northern schools
2. SU and Pitt don't add any value to football
3. Our basketball league was just fine without them
4. Greensboro is a wonderful place

http://www.starnewsonline.com/article/20111008/COLUMNIST/111009823?p=2&tc=pg

Our little collection of ragtag schools from the South was not good enough to stand muster to many other conferences, including the Big East, in football and basketball.

Boo hoo. We have to bring in Yankees to save the day and make our conference relevant.

 

[Guinness]

Our little collection of ragtag schools from the South was not good enough to stand muster to many other conferences, including the Big East, in football and basketball.

Boo hoo. We have to bring in Yankees to save the day and make our conference relevant.

They are saving us more than we are saving them. That said I would think that folks who witnessed the destruction of the BE would at least understand where a lot of ACC fans are coming from.

 

[orangecuse]

They need to get over themselves. UNC basketball may have been fine without SU and Pitt, but, quite frankly, the ACC as a basketball conference lost a lot of it's luster. The conference needs these Yankee teams, and we need them. The commissioner and presidents knew that. Sooner or later the fans will realize that too.

I think Greensboro is a nice place. Been there. However, it is not NYC or MSG. That's not a slight, just a statement of fact. I would rather watch a tournament game in NYC in March than in Greensboro. I'm not there to golf. I'm there to watch hoops.

Completely agree. I've been to several Big East Tournaments at the Garden as well as a few ACC ones in Charlotte & in Greensboro. There's no comparison...the Garden and the buzz around the BET is unmatched.

I've seen several similar type articles like hers from various Carolina outlets. Some, I've replied and received responses to. It's interesting how anyone can take any bit of material, no matter how small, and spin it to whatever they'd like, false representations of one's true intentions.

I think JB (although he should have known better) was merely trying to say...NYC is a destination city, world class, so much to see & do, etc., Greensboro, though certainly nice, is no NYC, especially if you're there for 5 days. Sorry folks, but the reality is, just as Dan Quail is no JFK...Greensboro is no NYC.

This author is facetious as well, though certainly not by design. Well jeepers JB, if you only had the luxury of tasting the out of this world bbq across the street from the Greensboro Coliseum, you would have never said such an obtrusive thing about our beloved town. What a silly statement. That's like saying, jeez, if you had only eaten at Grimaldi's down on Bleeker St. in Utica...

And, her obtuse comment about the ACC acronym. Maybe she needs a little geographical assistance here also. The last time I checked, the Atlantic coast extended up and down the entire Eastern Seaboard...always has...the North Carolina coast is just a part of the Atlantic coast...literally, and becoming more and more figuratively, conference speaking.

 

[dollarbill44]

I wouldn't get too worked up over this article. She is a humor columnist, after all, so I doubt she wrote this as a serious piece.

 

[orangecuse]

By no means am I worked up... She should stick to humor though, because nowhere in this article does she give the hint of being humorous...

 

[DoctorBombay]

Its like what every politician does, & carries about as much weight: she's simply playing to the base.
Getting upset about this article would be like arguing with a Red-Meat Republican or a Blue Dog Democrat-
a no-win proposition & a total waste of energy.

 

[rrlbees]

What a hack. So she prefers to be left behind in the realignment race?

 

[Guinness]

What a hack. So she prefers to be left behind in the realignment race?

Many of the ACC hoop only fans wish exactly that. They want the ACC to stay small and southern. They don't care about football.

 

[Cusefan95]

Many of the ACC hoop only fans wish exactly that. They want the ACC to stay small and southern. They don't care about football.

Absolutely...and it's a damn good thing for them the ACC has ignored them or it could have been them that was a hot mess right now instead of the Big East.

I gotta really question how big of a hoops fan they are if they're not excited about the first UNC-Syracuse or Duke-Syracuse game. They're less basketball fans and more confederates that can't accept the Civil War ended a long, long time ago.

 

[Stern]

The difference between the ACC and the Big East is that the ACC is no longer hostage to the provincial thinking of their North Carolina schools, while the Big East is still held hostage by Providence. It must suck for North Carolina in that they no longer have the clout to haul the rest of the league around by its sack and need to learn how to play nicely with others...but that's where they're at...

What world are you living in? The ACC was, is, and always WILL BE run by those North Carolina schools. Anyone who thinks otherwise is fooling themselves!

 

[SmilinBob]

Its like what every politician does, & carries about as much weight: she's simply playing to the base.
Getting upset about this article would be like arguing with a Red-Meat Republican or a Blue Dog Democrat-
a no-win proposition & a total waste of energy.

Yep, it's like saying dinosaur is better than Carolina bbq in a Syracuse article and if it's written in NC, the opposite.