Syracuse can’t compete

[upperdeck]

Especially when they're trying to demonstrate that they bring value to the SEC/B1G.


NFL players get about 49% of revenue, and several QBs are getting over 20% of their team's cap space.

By that math, ACC starting QBs making over $4M a year makes total sense.

with a roster twice as big

 

[Acesn8s]

Right. So we have plenty of time to sign players to fill needs.

Nobody ever said they weren’t going to, I said we need to or else we are going to be in trouble

 

[OttoinGrotto]

I don't think I'm reading this wrong

I think big donors would rather put their names on buildings and practice facilities over making 20 year olds millionaires every season.

This donor bubble can't last.

I'd be really curious to see the demographics in building and facility donors vs NIL donors. I suspect they're different demographics, and it might be an old money vs new money thing.

Old money LOVES naming the new engineering school building. New money loves playing fantasy football at the grandest scale.

You mean to tell me I can play mini GM by helping my favorite team get players? Ego lies behind a lot of new money. I know a lot of tech bro founders. They got that $$$ because they were certain they knew better than everyone else on something, and their wealth proves they were right. Now they want to exercise similar thinking in other arenas of life. College sports is just the latest sandbox for those little boys to play in.

 

[OttosShoes]

I don't think I'm reading this wrong

I think big donors would rather put their names on buildings and practice facilities over making 20 year olds millionaires every season.

This donor bubble can't last.

This. You have to ask where the money is coming from and why.

The most successful NIL athletes are often interesting personalities, because they can tweet whatever and offer big ROI. That's like any other business expense (read: presumably paid with before-tax income), but in this case far more lucrative than a generic influencer or spokesperson because you can effectively tie it to your school.

Whereas, for the 'rich alum' folks, these ostensibly really big NIL deals aren't obviously tax deductible, and are competing with donations that are clearly deductible, like naming a building or college, becoming a trustee, etc. Revenue sharing will actually help with this, because a booster can donate to the Athletics Fund and not only write it off but still get their name on something. Maybe that money doesn't directly pay an athlete, but it frees up ticket sale monies to pay athletes.

 

[SUFaninNJ]

Nobody ever said they weren’t going to, I said we need to or else we are going to be in trouble

It came across that you were starting to panic.

 

[pokercuse08]

with a roster twice as big

With the practice squad, NFL teams carry 69 players. Plus injured players don't count against the limit but they get paid. Plus I'm pretty sure the 70th through 105th players are making a negligible amount of money in any college model.

 

[Dcuse]

A decent QB in college is now making more than double the NFL league minimum salary? This sounds sustainable.

Not to me or anybody with a brain.

 

[Sudano]

I'd be really curious to see the demographics in building and facility donors vs NIL donors. I suspect they're different demographics, and it might be an old money vs new money thing.

Old money LOVES naming the new engineering school building. New money loves playing fantasy football at the grandest scale.

You mean to tell me I can play mini GM by helping my favorite team get players? Ego lies behind a lot of new money. I know a lot of tech bro founders. They got that $$$ because they were certain they knew better than everyone else on something, and their wealth proves they were right. Now they want to exercise similar thinking in other arenas of life. College sports is just the latest sandbox for those little boys to play in.

Big $$ Fantasy Football plays for Money, not for free. I don't pay other people to make big money with my big checks for Fantasy Football. Now that's Fantasy

 

[djcon57]

Not to me or anybody with a brain.

To those people with a brain understand the concept of the Union approved NFL Salary Cap?

If there was no cap, a decent pro QB would be making more than what they do now. Hence, what we see with the college game

 

[Dcuse]

To those people with a brain understand the concept of the Union approved NFL Salary Cap?

If there was no cap, a decent pro QB would be making more than what they do now. Hence, what we see with the college game

So you’re saying this is sustainable?

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Big $$ Fantasy Football plays for Money, not for free. I don't pay other people to make big money with my big checks for Fantasy Football. Now that's Fantasy

With all due respect, you're taking my reference to fantasy football far too literally.

 

[djcon57]

So you’re saying this is sustainable?

Depends on what "sustainable" means.

For the SEC and Big 10 schools and some others? Yes. It is sustainable and I would even guess it might continue to go up.

For the other schools, no, which I assume is what the Big 2 want anyway.

No different than saying baseball contracts "aren't sustainable" yet we see them just keep getting bigger. The Yankees and Mets pay 5x what the As do. Just is what it is. I don't believe a "salary cap" will ever happen in college sports because I don't think the SEC/Big10 wants it.

 

[Sudano]

With all due respect, you're taking my reference to fantasy football far too literally.

With all due respect, then don't make a literal argument when the point was weak and more nuanced.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

With all due respect, then don't make a literal argument when the point was weak and more nuanced.

Lol ok.

 

[AAM62]

Especially when they're trying to demonstrate that they bring value to the SEC/B1G.


NFL players get about 49% of revenue, and several QBs are getting over 20% of their team's cap space.

By that math, ACC starting QBs making over $4M a year makes total sense.

Um, are you taking the football only revenue or the total revenue per ACC school? Because that gets cut up across all programs.

 

[pokercuse08]

Um, are you taking the football only revenue or the total revenue per ACC school? Because that gets cut up across all programs.

Pretty sure that was football only revenue per school.

 

[wooddoc]

SU will compete. Watch...

 

[All4SU]

If investors begin buying college football teams - 51% - and college have to start paying players…

Doesn’t that mean that football scholarships would no longer (a) be required, and/or, (b) fall outside of Title IX? Meaning wouldn’t 85 women’s scholars no longer be mandated? And would that kill a lot if women’s Olympic sports at the college level?

 

[GoSU96]

If investors begin buying college football teams - 51% - and college have to start paying players…

Doesn’t that mean that football scholarships would no longer (a) be required, and/or, (b) fall outside of Title IX? Meaning wouldn’t 85 women’s scholars no longer be mandated? And would that kill a lot if women’s Olympic sports at the college level?

What are the cash flows?

How does that work in the context of public and private academic institutions?

I guess schools could license the brand and lease facilities but otherwise it’s a business enterprise outside of the athletic department and university.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

That’s called bad management. Qb obviously most important position but he isn’t worth that.

Duke football doesn’t have sec money to throw around.

Tobacco money is deep money.

 

[Capt. Tuttle]

Blame the Supreme Court.

You mean the U.S. Constitution. Blame the abuse of power and greed by the NCAA and colleges.
The mission of education and scholar athletes long ago departed the system.
Look at all the FB and BB on TV while the player should be home on semester break, just like other students.
In what education first world does SU FN have to fly to California 3 times in 4 months?
Had the players been treated fairly from the start, this might not have happened.