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Message: [QUOTE="Pyle, post: 2499302, member: 137"] I don't know about our Brand, but we have a branding issue and I'm kinda tired of it. In the past 15 years(roughly)... Orangmen to Orange Big East to ACC Numerous logo modifications including the failed SJ logo Orange/Gray/Blue/White uniforms Grob/Marrone/Shafer/Babers - this goes under offensive identity/Brand but still applies IMO and hurts recruiting since it seems we have the wrong type of players for each incoming system which bogs down the systems and makes kids have little faith. And don't forget: We compete every year for the Golden Snowball and are one of the top 5 least sunniest cities in the country. [/QUOTE]