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Message: [QUOTE="All4SU, post: 263303, member: 381"] I'm only going to respond to the first part of your post. 2009 was, to me, an exciting year for SU football. New excitement surrounding program and a new coach. Some good entertaining games. True not as many wins as we would like, but at least as many as we had seen in the previous 4 years. 2010 was great. To get back to a bowl game again, and WIN, was fun. 2011 was disappointing compared to 2010. But it was still solidly more entertaining than nearly all of 2005 - 2008. So that's three straight years leading up to right now that have not been "stomach turning" in my opinion. [/QUOTE]