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Syracuse is 55th in ESPN's preseason Football Power Index

The ranking is due to sports writers not actually doing their job and knowing of that which they right write. Most people rank Louisville over Syracuse and ignore the obvious fact that we BEAT Louisville two years ago WITH TB and Strong! But that would require they read, learn, actually follow some teams other than their handful of favorites, much easier to parrot what another screwball writes than do research. Now we have better athletes and Louisville has a new QB and new recycled coach without significantly upgrading their athletes (they already had a pretty good crew!).

I believe we are a solid 3rd place in the Atlantic division behind FSU and Clemson. Louisville has the burden of proof...on the field!
Everything you say about Louisville is true. But we need to remember that the recycling of the coach had nothing to do with a lack of coaching ability. He had great success at Louisville before, and was a back to back double digit winner in the SEC. He may have better athletes to work with now than he had in his first stint. I really think the only team in the league that doesn't have something to prove is FSU. Everyone else has either lost huge pieces of previously successful teams or haven't really beaten anyone of note in quite a while.
 
The ranking is due to sports writers not actually doing their job and knowing of that which they right write. Most people rank Louisville over Syracuse and ignore the obvious fact that we BEAT Louisville two years ago WITH TB and Strong! But that would require they read, learn, actually follow some teams other than their handful of favorites, much easier to parrot what another screwball writes than do research. Now we have better athletes and Louisville has a new QB and new recycled coach without significantly upgrading their athletes (they already had a pretty good crew!).

I believe we are a solid 3rd place in the Atlantic division behind FSU and Clemson. Louisville has the burden of proof...on the field!

SU played it's best game of the year on offense, Lville was down it's top two TB's by the end of the 1st quarter I believe and I'm pretty sure they came in beat up on defense, in particular the back seven, and Marrone, Hackett, and Nassib picked on their safeties all game.

Most people would rank Lville over Syracuse because Lville should be ranked over Syracuse.
 
GoSU96 said:
SU played it's best game of the year on offense, Lville was down it's top two TB's by the end of the 1st quarter I believe and I'm pretty sure they came in beat up on defense, in particular the back seven, and Marrone, Hackett, and Nassib picked on their safeties all game. Most people would rank Lville over Syracuse because Lville should be ranked over Syracuse.

Based on? I'm not sure the talent left on that team is all that better than us. They played a pretty crap schedule last year, with maybe their best win being Miami. I don't think it's a clear cut thing. Most prognosticators have us finishing one win behind them in the division.

And I'm not sure you can diminish the win in the dome ... We blew them out.

I think we're underrated and they are overrated.
 
Why is Pitt so high? They lost their starting qb and by far their best player in Donald...what do they have coming back?
 
Everything you say about Louisville is true. But we need to remember that the recycling of the coach had nothing to do with a lack of coaching ability. He had great success at Louisville before, and was a back to back double digit winner in the SEC. He may have better athletes to work with now than he had in his first stint. I really think the only team in the league that doesn't have something to prove is FSU. Everyone else has either lost huge pieces of previously successful teams or haven't really beaten anyone of note in quite a while.

Petrino is a good coach, but he has to rebuild and to rank a team without losing their coach in a serious rebuilding year is tough enough, add to that the players need to learn new schemes, new coaches, new habits, etc. makes ranking the team above proven teams a dangerous task. I have no delusions that Louisville has good players, yet kids are kids and even experienced adults have problems makes the above changes.

I fully agree that FSU has nothing to prove. Even Clemson is likely to lose one game that they shouldn't because of the player turnover.
 
We can beat any team on our schedule except Florida State.
@ Clemson will be really hard, but if their new QB sucks we could have a miracle which I doubt, but possible.

IMO, here is my opinion about our games this year.
0.001% chance to win Florida State
5% chance to win @ Clemsonn
25% chance to win Notre Dame
50-50 games Duke, Louisville, @Pitt, @Boston College
60% chance to win Maryland, NC State
65% chance to win @Wake Forest
75% chance to win @Central Michigan
95% chance to win Villanova
 
Based on? I'm not sure the talent left on that team is all that better than us. They played a pretty crap schedule last year, with maybe their best win being Miami. I don't think it's a clear cut thing. Most prognosticators have us finishing one win behind them in the division.

And I'm not sure you can diminish the win in the dome ... We blew them out.

I think we're underrated and they are overrated.
Although our schedule was better than theirs, we didn't beat anyone all that significant last year. Our best win may have been against a mediocre team from a significantly down B1G, and the two elite teams we played crushed us. I think the game in the Dome from two years ago should be completely ignored. Neither team is even similar to the two that played that game in regards to coaching staff or personnel. My guess, not being a retruitnik, is that Louisville's talent is better than ours right now, at least based on the recruiting services ratings, because Strong recruited well the whole time he was there, whereas we have yet to have a class as good as any of his. It sounds like the last class may have been the best move in that direction, but they haven't even been on the field yet.

Really, nobody knows how good either team is going to be. It's not as if we had a breakout star last year ala McNabb, Graves, Ismail, Harrison, Reyes or Spotwood. We return a number of players that we hope can make a jump next year but certainly aren't assured to. Hunt has a year of experience under his belt, but does that mean he becomes a more dynamic passer or does he just become a more consistent version of what we saw last year, which would be solid but not great? Does Estime become a consistent big play threat or is he a guy that makes a big play and then disappears for 3 games? Does the light turn on for Broyld or is he just the player we've already seen? Has McDonald figured out how to run an offense or does he leave us scratching our head with playcalling like he did so much last year?

Louisville has a whole new coaching staff but one that has a history of winning in a big time way. Do they pick up where the other one left off or is there a learning curve? They lost a number of impact players, including what may be the best quarterback we've seen in a while, but they've done a good job of keeping the cupboard stocked the last few years, so do they drop off or reload? :noidea:

We haven't combined beating an opponent of national significance with having a a good regular season record in a very long time, so why would we get anything more than mediocre recognition from the media, which is what 55 is. 55 versus 40 is splitting hairs, really. Like someone else said, you could take a huge group of teams outside of the top 25, throw them in a hat, and pick them out and have it be as accurate as any list someone is going to come up with.
 
Although our schedule was better than theirs, we didn't beat anyone all that significant last year. Our best win may have been against a mediocre team from a significantly down B1G, and the two elite teams we played crushed us. I think the game in the Dome from two years ago should be completely ignored. Neither team is even similar to the two that played that game in regards to coaching staff or personnel. My guess, not being a retruitnik, is that Louisville's talent is better than ours right now, at least based on the recruiting services ratings, because Strong recruited well the whole time he was there, whereas we have yet to have a class as good as any of his. It sounds like the last class may have been the best move in that direction, but they haven't even been on the field yet.

Really, nobody knows how good either team is going to be. It's not as if we had a breakout star last year ala McNabb, Graves, Ismail, Harrison, Reyes or Spotwood. We return a number of players that we hope can make a jump next year but certainly aren't assured to. Hunt has a year of experience under his belt, but does that mean he becomes a more dynamic passer or does he just become a more consistent version of what we saw last year, which would be solid but not great? Does Estime become a consistent big play threat or is he a guy that makes a big play and then disappears for 3 games? Does the light turn on for Broyld or is he just the player we've already seen? Has McDonald figured out how to run an offense or does he leave us scratching our head with playcalling like he did so much last year?

Louisville has a whole new coaching staff but one that has a history of winning in a big time way. Do they pick up where the other one left off or is there a learning curve? They lost a number of impact players, including what may be the best quarterback we've seen in a while, but they've done a good job of keeping the cupboard stocked the last few years, so do they drop off or reload? :noidea:

We haven't combined beating an opponent of national significance with having a a good regular season record in a very long time, so why would we get anything more than mediocre recognition from the media, which is what 55 is. 55 versus 40 is splitting hairs, really. Like someone else said, you could take a huge group of teams outside of the top 25, throw them in a hat, and pick them out and have it be as accurate as any list someone is going to come up with.
Louisville and Duke are both 50-50 home games. Louisville will be better in the future cause Petrino can recruit, but they lost 2 first round picks, 1 second round pick this past draft. We can beat them it won't be a lock, but they aren't Clemson or Florida State. Who is to say their depth will be able to handle the ACC schedule this year after playing in the AAC last year. I think the Cards will be fine eventually, but if we win the game this year it won't shock anybody.
 
Petrino is a good coach, but he has to rebuild and to rank a team without losing their coach in a serious rebuilding year is tough enough, add to that the players need to learn new schemes, new coaches, new habits, etc. makes ranking the team above proven teams a dangerous task. I have no delusions that Louisville has good players, yet kids are kids and even experienced adults have problems makes the above changes.

I fully agree that FSU has nothing to prove. Even Clemson is likely to lose one game that they shouldn't because of the player turnover.
Having to learn a new system is a challenge, but he did fine transitioning last year in his one season at Western Kentucky. Additionally, how much did it annoy us when people made those claims about us last year? My guess is most of the coaches he has at Louisville were with him at Western Kentucky so the coaches will at least be familiar with each other. This may actually give them an advantage over what we had to deal with last year with very few coaches being familiar with each other, especially on offense.

Like I said in another post, nobody knows how good they'll be or we'll be. We should be better, but discounting them would be the same mistake people made with us last year.
 
Louisville and Duke are both 50-50 home games. Louisville will be better in the future cause Petrino can recruit, but they lost 2 first round picks, 1 second round pick this past draft. We can beat them it won't be a lock, but they aren't Clemson or Florida State. Who is to say their depth will be able to handle the ACC schedule this year after playing in the AAC last year. I think the Cards will be fine eventually, but if we win the game this year it won't shock anybody.
I agree with you completely. I didn't want my argument to sound as if I thought they were far and away better than us. To the contrary, I said we were essentially dead even when I said deciding positions between #40 and #55 would be splitting hairs. The argument people on here are making against Louisville is the same one people made against us prior to last season, when we had to replace a first round pick, our starting QB, and our two most productive receivers. I fully believe it's a 50/50 game with us and them.
 
Petrino is a good coach, but he has to rebuild and to rank a team without losing their coach in a serious rebuilding year is tough enough, add to that the players need to learn new schemes, new coaches, new habits, etc. makes ranking the team above proven teams a dangerous task. I have no delusions that Louisville has good players, yet kids are kids and even experienced adults have problems makes the above changes.

I fully agree that FSU has nothing to prove. Even Clemson is likely to lose one game that they shouldn't because of the player turnover.

SU went through the same scenario with a much less experienced coach and less of a talent base and with the offense cratering and only lost one game off the prior year win total. SU was 13-12 the two years prior.

Lville is coming off of 22-3 the last two. To expect Lville to fall off a great deal is wishful thinking.
 
SU went through the same scenario with a much less experienced coach and less of a talent base and with the offense cratering and only lost one game off the prior year win total. SU was 13-12 the two years prior.

Lville is coming off of 22-3 the last two. To expect Lville to fall off a great deal is wishful thinking.
Here is their schedule. Nobody expects Louisville become 6-6 next year, but they will fall back without Teddy Bridgewater and playing a legit schedule next year.

Sept. 1 Home Miami W
Sept. 6 Home Murray State W
Sept. 13 Away Virginia W
Sept. 20 Away Florida International W
Sept. 27 Home Wake Forest W
Oct. 3 Away Syracuse L
Oct. 11 Away Clemson L
Oct. 18 Home NC State W
Oct. 30 Home Florida State L
Nov. 8 Away Boston College W
Nov. 22 Away Notre Dame L
Nov. 29 Home Kentucky W

8-4 next year for the Cards. I think @ Syracuse is a tough game for Louisville.
 

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