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Message: [QUOTE="oldpinepoint, post: 3917724, member: 320"] I really don’t know why there is so much ND hate going on. I’m no fan of ND by any means but they played their hand and have done what’s best for them. They have no obligation to Join full time in the ACC unless they choose too. Just like Cuse had no obligation to stick around the old big east football conference or try to save it or whatever. Maybe that day will come, maybe it won’t. I really don’t care, bottom line is the ACC needs to look over their shoulder, we are not safe by any means for the long term. As for Cuse football, we need to get consistently average to good or we are sitting at the kids table on thanksgiving. [/QUOTE]