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Message: [QUOTE="TerryD, post: 3918394, member: 3399"] But ACC fans still want ND to do what it doesn't want to do at all, and for the lowest possible price. To me, that is arrogance. This is what I keep seeing: [B]"I don't like the status quo so I demand that ND jettison independence, do it right now and take less money for it against its best interests because I say so and because it will help the school I root for."[/B] Look, it seems inevitable to me that two super conferences will form and that ND will ultimately have to join one, no matter what. Everything else seems to be re-arranging deck chairs until that inevitable day. So, the best idea for ND seems to be for football to remain independent, to ride it out, to make sure ND is in its strongest and most flexible position, then pick the best one of the super conferences, not join the current ACC in football (especially not right now for half the payout and be locked into an even longer GOR). I am sorry that is an unpopular opinion, but the ACC needs to do a better job than it has been doing, not ask ND to give up things to save it. I strongly believe that neither Syracuse nor North Carolina nor any other school would do what you are asking if it were in ND's place. The ACC needs to get creative. Convince Southern Cal, Stanford, Navy and two other schools to join it with ND, become a true coast to coast national conference, then get ESPN to agree that if ND joins, the payout will equal or be very close to SEC and Big Ten money. I think that this is the job of the ACC to put together, not ND's job. To me, that should be the pathway to getting ND to jettison independence, not to say we are tired of the status quo and that ND needs to do this to "save" the ACC from itself or we will be mad at you. Only then can ND and the ACC have a real business discussion about ND dumping independence and joining the ACC. [/QUOTE]

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