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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 4532602, member: 668"] Yeah. I mean how many times have we heard over the years (even in years when we were actually good, ranked during the regular season, chasing conference titles, etc.) JB spewing in his pressers rebounding and lack thereof being such a significant factor in taking the L. And, the [I]"we don't box out, we play zone,[/I] [I]we guard an area," [/I]yada, yada, yada. It's such an inherent deficiency in a zone defense, along with the aforementioned 3 point shooting. This has always been so incredibly frustrating over the years. However, the overall success of JB/SU basketball, in large, due to the high(er) talent level we had, etc. at least made it somewhat more tolerable. Nowadays, while on this continuous run of mediocrity along with not being ranked in the regular season since 2014 come January, I have long reached the zero tolerance state of being. [/QUOTE]