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Like Coach Marrone’s show, Coach Boeheim’s showis on locally at TK-99 FM but on Thursdays at 7PM, rather than 8PM on Wednesdays. Fans can call the show from 1-888-7GO-CUSE, (1-888-746-2873) or 315-424-TK99, (315-424-8599), or E-Mail the coach from the Radio Mailbox link on the front page of SU Athletics.com They are at the Delmonico’s Restaurant and you can ask questions there live.
There does not appear to be a second hour of the show this year, (which is fine with me- the second hour was traditionally repetitive).
My Questions/Comments
“Coach, I’ve always felt that the Big East’s problems date back to the formation of the conference. It was a combination of schools that played both big-time football and basketball and those that played only big-time basketball. Those groups had different priorities and the Big East blew apart a great basketball conference to try to keep the football schools in the conference. Wouldn’t it have worked out better if the top northeastern football schools formed an all-sports conference back in the late 70’s and the top northeastern basketball schools a basketball only conference? Might that have given both the stability they needed and allowed the to survive with minimal changes?”
HCJB
Coach said “it’s kind of early for this stuff.” Matt Park pointed out that St. John’s had played two regular season games already. JB said the exhibitions had been “good experiences and hopefully we’ve learned something.” Matt noted that all 12 scholarship players had scored in each game. JB: It’s hard to play 12 guys and stay in a rhythm. You have a 19-10 lead and you send in a bunch of new guys and suddenly they are back in it. We have guys on the bench who are as good as the starters in some case.”
I called in my first question. Jim’s answer was about why the Big East came to be what it was. The football schools, especially Penn State were not interested in a conference. Then, after the Big East became a success, Penn State had some interested but wanted to keep all it’s revenue for itself. Later they really wanted to get in but the schools didn’t want them. Dave Gavitt was the guy with the vision to create a conference. And he was a basketball guy. The first teams in the Big east were Providence, Georgetown and St. John’s.
Coach said that the ACC “will be more like the Big East we’ve known than the new conference in any case. The travel time will be shorter. It’s a great basketball conference. Our recruiting will be fine. So it’s a good move for us.”
Several callers asked about the depth of the rotation. (Nobody used the phrase “7 and a half players”, which is fortunate: height is important in basketball and we don’t want to have half a player in there: and which half would you use?). JB: “We’ve played 8 mostly. We can play 9. 10 is very difficult….we could play 8-10 guys. You can’t pre-judge. You have to see how they play. If we can play well with 9-10 guys, we will. If we can’t get into a good rhythm we’ll see what number allows it. It’s not a good strategy to use 12 guys if you lose a 13 point lead. I think if you asked all the fans if they wanted to win the game, it would be unanimous that they would.
One caller asked if the sophomores would play more of a role this year. Another asked if Michael Carter-Williams might play more this year to prepare for the post season or would we “stick with Jardine and Triche and get the same results. Coach pointed out that we have 7 freshmen or sophomores on this team and the sophomores- Melo, Keita, Fair and Waiters, would certainly play a key role. “We are slightly ahead of some of the teams in the league because we have more veterans. But we lost our best player and couldn’t beat Pittsburgh or Louisville even with him.” He said that Michael Carter-Williams, who scored 11 points in 12 minutes vs. St. Rose, will play a lot this year.
Another caller suggested that Carter-Williams and Waiters worked particularly well together. “That’s because they come into the games at the same time and practice a lot together.” Matt suggested that it was a positive chemistry factor that we had so many players form the Philadelphia area- Jardine, Waiters, Christmas and Cooney. JB: “They’ve played a lot together.”
JB did complain “We’re missing a steady inside guy.” A caller suggested Fab Melo “looked like a different player”. JB: “it doesn’t matter how much talent you have if you can’t get downcourt. He lost 20-25 pounds and now he’s making plays at the end of practice.”
Matt brought up the subject of Joe Paterno and Jim had plenty to say. “I haven’t heard one of these great, brilliant talk show experts say ‘What will we do for the kids?’ Start a fund. You could raise $5million in an hour. Let’s help kids instead of talking about it.” Matt suggest JB could get something going through his website. “I’d like to do something like that.” Matt also said that with 100,000 fans in the seats, plenty of money could be made from the Nebraska game.
JB: “As much as I never liked Penn State- I’ve never met Joe Paterno: we had a brief spat over 15 years ago- This doesn’t have any effect on what Joe Paterno did for Penn State in 46 years, winning games, helping players, building libraries. Their stadium seated 40,000 when he became the head coach there. It’s up to 106,000 now. The last four Presidents of Penn State didn’t do that: Joe Paterno did. He’s one of the top five coaches in American sports history- at least. I’ve never heard anything to indicate he didn’t run a clean program or break any rules.”
“They wanted to fire him in 2004 but they didn’t have the guts. I’d like to see the Broad of Trustees grow some of what I can’t mention here. Why didn’t they call him in? They sent him a message to call a telephone number. I’ll tell you: I wouldn’t have called any telephone number. What he did was wrong, along with a lot of other people.”
Back to basketball: A caller cited our history of developing great forwards and listed several of them including Demetris Nichols and Hakim Warrick. He wondered if Kris Joseph was ready to become that type of player. JB: “he’s a very good player who had a set-back and still has a sore knee. It’s tough to be a mobile wing player with a sore knee. He could be as good as any of those guys. The strength of any team is it’s upper-classmen. Kris, Scoop and Brandon- we need the veteran guys to be the leaders and set the example.
A caller asked if we’d be playing more man-to-man and pressing more this year. JB: “There was a time- people don’t remember it- when we played man to man the entire non-conference schedule. But we were losing, so we switched and played zone all the time. We are playing man to man and pressing a little better this year, so it’s an option.” Matt asked if you get rusty in the zone if you don’t use it all the time. Jim felt you get rusty in the man to man when you don’t use it, less so with the zone.
They discussed the NBA lockout. “If they don’t get something done soon, we’ll lose the season.” Matt suggested that a 50 game schedule might be a blessing in disguise. JB felt the owners were asking a lot- a cut from 57% to 50% of the revenue, (Matt said he’d heard 47%), although the size of the revenue has grown. “Billy Hunter would be forced to resign if he accepted that. He needs to get the owners to ease up on some of the other things. Some franchises are not very well run. They’ve over-spent and have family members on the payroll. That’s why they won’t open their books-they don’t want people to know that.” He pointed out that the players have more to lose: they can be replaced. Wes Johnson is making $2-3 million. Donte Greene is in the last year of a $1-2 million contract.
Charley in Schenectady asked if Jim practices those facial expressions we see during games. “No, they are the result of natural talent and ability.” He said the toughest member of the Boeheim family was his grandmother. When she cooked her first meal for her husband, he said it was pretty good but not as good as mother’s.” She opened the window and threw the plate into the barge canal.”
There does not appear to be a second hour of the show this year, (which is fine with me- the second hour was traditionally repetitive).
My Questions/Comments
“Coach, I’ve always felt that the Big East’s problems date back to the formation of the conference. It was a combination of schools that played both big-time football and basketball and those that played only big-time basketball. Those groups had different priorities and the Big East blew apart a great basketball conference to try to keep the football schools in the conference. Wouldn’t it have worked out better if the top northeastern football schools formed an all-sports conference back in the late 70’s and the top northeastern basketball schools a basketball only conference? Might that have given both the stability they needed and allowed the to survive with minimal changes?”
HCJB
Coach said “it’s kind of early for this stuff.” Matt Park pointed out that St. John’s had played two regular season games already. JB said the exhibitions had been “good experiences and hopefully we’ve learned something.” Matt noted that all 12 scholarship players had scored in each game. JB: It’s hard to play 12 guys and stay in a rhythm. You have a 19-10 lead and you send in a bunch of new guys and suddenly they are back in it. We have guys on the bench who are as good as the starters in some case.”
I called in my first question. Jim’s answer was about why the Big East came to be what it was. The football schools, especially Penn State were not interested in a conference. Then, after the Big East became a success, Penn State had some interested but wanted to keep all it’s revenue for itself. Later they really wanted to get in but the schools didn’t want them. Dave Gavitt was the guy with the vision to create a conference. And he was a basketball guy. The first teams in the Big east were Providence, Georgetown and St. John’s.
Coach said that the ACC “will be more like the Big East we’ve known than the new conference in any case. The travel time will be shorter. It’s a great basketball conference. Our recruiting will be fine. So it’s a good move for us.”
Several callers asked about the depth of the rotation. (Nobody used the phrase “7 and a half players”, which is fortunate: height is important in basketball and we don’t want to have half a player in there: and which half would you use?). JB: “We’ve played 8 mostly. We can play 9. 10 is very difficult….we could play 8-10 guys. You can’t pre-judge. You have to see how they play. If we can play well with 9-10 guys, we will. If we can’t get into a good rhythm we’ll see what number allows it. It’s not a good strategy to use 12 guys if you lose a 13 point lead. I think if you asked all the fans if they wanted to win the game, it would be unanimous that they would.
One caller asked if the sophomores would play more of a role this year. Another asked if Michael Carter-Williams might play more this year to prepare for the post season or would we “stick with Jardine and Triche and get the same results. Coach pointed out that we have 7 freshmen or sophomores on this team and the sophomores- Melo, Keita, Fair and Waiters, would certainly play a key role. “We are slightly ahead of some of the teams in the league because we have more veterans. But we lost our best player and couldn’t beat Pittsburgh or Louisville even with him.” He said that Michael Carter-Williams, who scored 11 points in 12 minutes vs. St. Rose, will play a lot this year.
Another caller suggested that Carter-Williams and Waiters worked particularly well together. “That’s because they come into the games at the same time and practice a lot together.” Matt suggested that it was a positive chemistry factor that we had so many players form the Philadelphia area- Jardine, Waiters, Christmas and Cooney. JB: “They’ve played a lot together.”
JB did complain “We’re missing a steady inside guy.” A caller suggested Fab Melo “looked like a different player”. JB: “it doesn’t matter how much talent you have if you can’t get downcourt. He lost 20-25 pounds and now he’s making plays at the end of practice.”
Matt brought up the subject of Joe Paterno and Jim had plenty to say. “I haven’t heard one of these great, brilliant talk show experts say ‘What will we do for the kids?’ Start a fund. You could raise $5million in an hour. Let’s help kids instead of talking about it.” Matt suggest JB could get something going through his website. “I’d like to do something like that.” Matt also said that with 100,000 fans in the seats, plenty of money could be made from the Nebraska game.
JB: “As much as I never liked Penn State- I’ve never met Joe Paterno: we had a brief spat over 15 years ago- This doesn’t have any effect on what Joe Paterno did for Penn State in 46 years, winning games, helping players, building libraries. Their stadium seated 40,000 when he became the head coach there. It’s up to 106,000 now. The last four Presidents of Penn State didn’t do that: Joe Paterno did. He’s one of the top five coaches in American sports history- at least. I’ve never heard anything to indicate he didn’t run a clean program or break any rules.”
“They wanted to fire him in 2004 but they didn’t have the guts. I’d like to see the Broad of Trustees grow some of what I can’t mention here. Why didn’t they call him in? They sent him a message to call a telephone number. I’ll tell you: I wouldn’t have called any telephone number. What he did was wrong, along with a lot of other people.”
Back to basketball: A caller cited our history of developing great forwards and listed several of them including Demetris Nichols and Hakim Warrick. He wondered if Kris Joseph was ready to become that type of player. JB: “he’s a very good player who had a set-back and still has a sore knee. It’s tough to be a mobile wing player with a sore knee. He could be as good as any of those guys. The strength of any team is it’s upper-classmen. Kris, Scoop and Brandon- we need the veteran guys to be the leaders and set the example.
A caller asked if we’d be playing more man-to-man and pressing more this year. JB: “There was a time- people don’t remember it- when we played man to man the entire non-conference schedule. But we were losing, so we switched and played zone all the time. We are playing man to man and pressing a little better this year, so it’s an option.” Matt asked if you get rusty in the zone if you don’t use it all the time. Jim felt you get rusty in the man to man when you don’t use it, less so with the zone.
They discussed the NBA lockout. “If they don’t get something done soon, we’ll lose the season.” Matt suggested that a 50 game schedule might be a blessing in disguise. JB felt the owners were asking a lot- a cut from 57% to 50% of the revenue, (Matt said he’d heard 47%), although the size of the revenue has grown. “Billy Hunter would be forced to resign if he accepted that. He needs to get the owners to ease up on some of the other things. Some franchises are not very well run. They’ve over-spent and have family members on the payroll. That’s why they won’t open their books-they don’t want people to know that.” He pointed out that the players have more to lose: they can be replaced. Wes Johnson is making $2-3 million. Donte Greene is in the last year of a $1-2 million contract.
Charley in Schenectady asked if Jim practices those facial expressions we see during games. “No, they are the result of natural talent and ability.” He said the toughest member of the Boeheim family was his grandmother. When she cooked her first meal for her husband, he said it was pretty good but not as good as mother’s.” She opened the window and threw the plate into the barge canal.”
