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The Dino Babers Show - before FSU

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Coach Babers’s Show will be at the new Marriott Syracuse, (the former Hotel Syracuse). The first show will be Wednesday night at 7PM because the game is Friday, (the show will normally be two days before the next game). They will be in Shaughnessy’s Irish Pub, which can be accessed from the street.

This article contains the schedule:
New Home for AmeriCU Dino Babers Show

You can also listen to the show live each week on the Syracuse IMG Sports Network and Cuse.com. Wednesday's show will be on 99.1 FM and 97.7 FM, as well. The show will regularly air on 99.5FM (Syracuse) 99.1 FM (Utica) and 1200 AM.”
You can also get it on: Listen to The Alan Nathan Show on WGVA on TuneIn

There hasn’t been any change in the phone numbers, which last year were 315-424-8599 (local) or 1-888-746-2873. You can call to ask questions or submit them via Twitter at: #AskDino hashtag on Twitter

Or through Cuse.com, (the SU Athletic website):
Syracuse University Athletics

You can (or could last year, anyway), listen to a podcast of the show, probably the next day, at: Search results for babers | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn

I’ve been asked to continue doing the summaries, even by people who listen to the podcasts. I may focus on the major points, rather than trying to record everything.


My Question(s)

“Coach, Florida State seems to have lost confidence. We need to jump right on them and keep them discouraged. However, in each road game we’ve gotten off to poor starts and had to come back. Why did that happen and how can we get off to a strong start in this game?”

The Show
(I sometimes re-arrange the comments so that statements made on the same subject are reported together, even if they came at different points of the show.)

Coach said that “among the greatest World Series- except for the last game.” It prompted Matt to make a comparison: people complain that too many decisions in baseball are based on analytics and not enough on gut feelings: how much is coach Babers into analytics? “I love math. I love computers. I love numbers. But If I have a chance to get Michael Jordan the last shot with his fighting spirit, I’m going to do it. “

Liam in Pompey beat me to it again. He feels we could win the rest of the games but that Florida State is better than their 2-5 record. Coach felt that the BC game “showed the value of bringing southern teams up north to play- they don’t like to play in that weather when it’s cold and rainy. Boston College had a strong tailback, a strong line and a strong defense. Florida State hasn’t lost anybody on their defense and they are still very difficult to move the ball on. They’ve got a young quarterback, a 4-5 star guy who will cause problems when he’s a sophomore or a junior. I just hope he doesn’t become a sophomore this week- he’ll have 6-7 games under his belt. If they had 14 more points they’d have 1 loss. Florida State has been to a bowl every year since Bobby Bowden’s first season there. (That’s not entirely true. Bowden’s first season and only losing record was 1976. His 1978 team was 8-3 and uninvited and so was his 1983 team, (they were 6-5). Obviously, both teams would have been in bowls today.) “Their coaches are paid so much down there and their traveling party is twice our size. They have quality control guys all over the place. They are just like Alabama or LSU.”

I then called in my question. “We looked for the common denominator in the LSU, NC State, Miami and FSU – we need to look for the non-common denominator: all those games were on the road, in very tough places to play. To win we must play a crystal clear game: better and cleaner. But it’s also about the opponent and the place we play them. One coach told me that to win on the road, you have to take a good football team on the road. I believe we have a good football team. They haven’t won at home and we haven’t won on the road, so something’s got to give.”

Injury report: Antwan Cordy and Jordan Martin are out for the season. Martin was a grad transfer from Toledo, who is playing tonight and so that ends his collegiate career. But Kendall Coleman and Scoop Bradshaw will be back.

Coach is impressed with Cole Murphy’s performance but “We need to score touchdowns instead of field goals. We need to get more aggressive and we will be.”

John in Baltimore wondered if we use stats in recruiting players. He noted Wyoming recruited both Josh Allen and Eric Dungey, so they must have a system for picking the right prospects. Dino “We have an issue at SU: We have a reputation and when we offer a player, suddenly dozens of other schools decide they ought to offer the same player. Sometimes we have to tell other players we don’t have a scholarship for them. We have to tell out commitments when it’s ‘not cool’ to take trips to see other schools”, (presumably when we’ve told our other prospect we have no scholarships for them.) “The SEC schools were all over Tommy DeVito but he held them off.”

Rich in Clay lauded Coach Babers for “bringing a lot of integrity to the community and the program”. He wondered how we prepare for grass field games, since we play on turf. Dino said that we now have a grass field to practice on and can sometimes use of the fields as well. “It’s helped us, even if we haven’t won on the road.”

John in Syracuse wondered when we’d see more of Markenzy Pierre. “We like what Markenzy’s doing but he’s going to have to wait his turn. We finally got a 100 yard game out of our running back, (Dontae Strickland). We also got 100 yards from our quarterback. If you eliminate the 4 interceptions and get around 250 yards passing, now you’ve got a real offense….The guys back there, (where Pierre is) will have to wait.” (Which makes it kind of too bad we blew his redshirt.)

Marty called in and declared the coach was “A fresh breath of fresh air.” He asked how our defense would do against FSU’s offense and is the coach interested in the Florida job? HCDB: “We need our defense to play lights out. We also need to score TDs in the red zone…..The only job I talk about is the job I have. I’m blessed to be the head coach at Syracuse University.”

The “key to the game” is to get turnovers and stop giving the ball up and to get touchdowns instead of field goals. If we do that we may be excited coming back on the plane.”.

Dino introduced his special guest, Justin Lustig, his running backs and special teams coach. “It’s not easy to have the job your head coach used to have”.

How is the kicking game going? “The coverage on kickoffs and punts has been great all year. Cole and Sterling have been fantastic. We need to start making something out of the returns.” Matt noted that was pretty ahrd these days because the kickers make it hard to have a chance at a return.

Lustig said his most important job is to “evaluate performance and find the pieces”. He was at Eastern Illinois even before Coach Babers and reminisced about recruiting Jimmy Garoppolo out of a Chicago suburb. To be a good assistant coach, “You have to buy into the culture that the head coach puts forth.”
 
15 likes but no comments on anything the Coach said?
 
15 likes but no comments on anything the Coach said?

So I actually did have one question. From this part:

Marty called in and declared the coach was “A fresh breath of fresh air.” He asked how our defense would do against FSU’s offense and is the coach interested in the Florida job? HCDB: “We need our defense to play lights out. We also need to score TDs in the red zone…..The only job I talk about is the job I have. I’m blessed to be the head coach at Syracuse University.”

The "..." appear to be a "yadda yadda yadda". Did Marty ask him if he's leaving?
 
So I actually did have one question. From this part:

Marty called in and declared the coach was “A fresh breath of fresh air.” He asked how our defense would do against FSU’s offense and is the coach interested in the Florida job? HCDB: “We need our defense to play lights out. We also need to score TDs in the red zone…..The only job I talk about is the job I have. I’m blessed to be the head coach at Syracuse University.”

The "..." appear to be a "yadda yadda yadda". Did Marty ask him if he's leaving?


He asked him if he was interested in the Florida job. Dino gave him a carefully uninformative answer.
 
He asked him if he was interested in the Florida job. Dino gave him a carefully uninformative answer.

I'm an idiot. It's sitting right there, but I had FSU on the brain and didn't finish reading it.

I'll leave my idiocy out there, rather than edit. And hey, it generated some discussion!
 
It would be nice if Babers were to say "I have no interest in any other job - I will be here for the next six years - I never want to leave"

But, situations change and coaches do not want to be accused down the road of not being honest.

So, I guess his response is the best one could expect.

He is a shrewd guy.

Hopefully he really does feel blessed to be the HC of Syracuse University Football. And, hopefully he understands what a great job it really is.

The fact is that I can only think of one HC who wanted to leave - Marrone.
 
It would be nice if Babers were to say "I have no interest in any other job - I will be here for the next six years - I never want to leave"

But, situations change and coaches do not want to be accused down the road of not being honest.

So, I guess his response is the best one could expect.

He is a shrewd guy.

Hopefully he really does feel blessed to be the HC of Syracuse University Football. And, hopefully he understands what a great job it really is.

The fact is that I can only think of one HC who wanted to leave - Marrone.
Well, Coach Mac also left for what he thought were greener pastures.
 
Well, Coach Mac also left for what he thought were greener pastures.

THE NFL *IS* GREENER PASTURES.

The green part is from all those millions of $'s more that most NFL coaches make than most College coaches.

There are only 32 of those jobs.
There are hundreds of college head coaches.

IF you get called up to The Show, you go.
Now, it doesn't always work out that great - see: Head Ball Coach, Saban, etc, but-
you don't not jump at that opportunity when it presents itself.

You think Doug Marrone wishes he was still at the Cuse? LOL.
 
If he were to leave...Chip Kelly anyone? Similar offense so personnel wouldn't be an issue. (ducks and hides)
 
I'd call Art Briles. Everyone deserves a second chance. :)

I'd go get Charlie Strong and Sterlin Gilbert from South Florida as a package.

Joe Morehead

Phil Montgomery

(Maybe Lewis or Lynch are ready and capable of making the jump, I just know I want a guy who's not a first time head coach.).

Though I believe in my gut that Dino isn't leaving. Just saying "when he does".
 
“Their coaches are paid so much down there and their traveling party is twice our size. They have quality control guys all over the place. They are just like Alabama or LSU.”

He brings this up almost every time he talks about playing a higher eschelon team. I can’t help but think it’s because of a lack of confidence that SU will get him even close in terms of the ancillary resources he thinks are nessessary to compete with the top. I think if he had confidence he would talk about how our program is building itself up (I know we have added staff) but he never seems to mention it. I wonder if we are pissing in the ocean, so to speak?
 
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He brings this up almost every time he talks about playing a higher eschelon team. I can’t help but think it’s because of a lack of confidence that SU will get him even close in terms of the ancelliary resources he thinks are nessessary to compete with the top. I think if he had confidence he would talk about how our program is building itself up (I know we have added staff) but he never seems to mention it. I wonder if we are pissing in the ocean, so to speak?

Yeah, the first part is the most telling.
 
We have to tell out commitments when it’s ‘not cool’ to take trips to see other schools”, (presumably when we’ve told our other prospect we have no scholarships for them.) “The SEC schools were all over Tommy DeVito but he held them off.”

I get it is the nature of the beast of D1 sports but I want a player that see other options and still digs Syracuse no matter what. I understand that SU has deficits compared to other schools with facilities, fan base numbers, or athletic money but to me it shows insecurity in the football product and vision.
 
I'd call Art Briles. Everyone deserves a second chance. :)

I'd go get Charlie Strong and Sterlin Gilbert from South Florida as a package.

Joe Morehead

Phil Montgomery

(Maybe Lewis or Lynch are ready and capable of making the jump, I just know I want a guy who's not a first time head coach.).

Though I believe in my gut that Dino isn't leaving. Just saying "when he does".
I've never understood all the love for Charlie Strong. Imo, he's, at best, an average HC but a really good recruiter.
 
I’ll bet most of these teams dwarf us in terms of staff plus some others not on the list

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True.

And I believe he regretted that decision.

Deleone got the itch. Tried it and came back. If you have the NFL opportunity and you have any interest at all, you have to try it.

Marrone is different though. He’s built for the NFL. SU was a means to get him there. And he was able to help his alma later in the process, so it was win win for him.

The last thing I worry about with Dino is the NFL. I don’t think he’s interested at all.
 
Deleone got the itch. Tried it and came back. If you have the NFL opportunity and you have any interest at all, you have to try it.

Marrone is different though. He’s built for the NFL. SU was a means to get him there. And he was able to help his alma later in the process, so it was win win for him.

The last thing I worry about with Dino is the NFL. I don’t think he’s interested at all.


When Marrone came here it was said he was already being considered for head NFL jobs, (I think that came from Sean Payton). If true he didn't have to come here to get to the NFL
 
Scoop and Coleman back is huge. If we can get 30 good snaps out of each of those guys, I like our chances.
 
This was Marrone's dream job, but like most things, the luster faded.
 
When Marrone came here it was said he was already being considered for head NFL jobs, (I think that came from Sean Payton). If true he didn't have to come here to get to the NFL

It was said that I was considered for Kate Upton’s husband. Can’t remember who said it, but I believed them and didn’t take that job as starting first baseman for the Yankees.
 
Don't really like that quote. He might be playing but idk.
 

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