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Coach Babers’s show this year show will be Thursday nights at 7PM except when the game is not on a Saturday. The show is two days before the game, except for Thanksgiving week. Here is the schedule:

Thursday, Aug. 29 – 7 pm; Thursday, Sept. 5 – 7 pm; Thursday, Sept. 12 – 7 pm
Thursday, Sept. 19 – 7 pm; Thursday, Sept. 26 – 7 pm; Tuesday, Oct. 8 – 7 pm
Wednesday, Oct. 16 – 7 pm; Thursday, Oct. 24 – 6 pm; Thursday, Oct. 31 – 6 pm
Thursday, Nov. 14 – 6 pm; Thursday, Nov. 21 – 6 pm; Tuesday, Nov. 26 – 6 pm

They are now adding the “Gomez Hour” that they do from 8-9PM for the Jim Boeheim basketball shows to the Dino Babers football show. I’ll be summarizing the comments directly related to the team and the next game (late) on the night of the broadcast and anything else interesting the next day, (if there is anything else that seems interesting). I’ll have a “first hour” and a “second hour” question.

The show will originate from PressRoom Pub, located at 220 Herald Place in Syracuse's historic Herald Square, each week this season.

You can also listen to the show live each week on the Syracuse IMG Sports Network and Cuse.com. Wednesday's show will be on 99.1 FM and 97.7 FM, as well. The show will regularly air on 99.5FM (Syracuse) 99.1 FM (Utica) and 1200 AM.”
You can also get it on: Home | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn

There hasn’t been any change in the phone numbers, which last year were 315-424-8599 (local) or 1-888-746-2873. You can call to ask questions or submit them via Twitter at: https://twitter.com/CuseIMG
#AskDino or through Cuse.com, (the SU Athletic website):

You can (or could last year, anyway), listen to a podcast of the show, probably the next day, at: Search results for babers | Free Internet Radio | TuneIn
I’ve been asked to continue doing the summaries, even by people who listen to the podcasts. I may focus on the major points, rather than trying to record everything.


My Question(s) or Comments

First Hour:

Coach, would the performance this team had against Duke have been possible before you made the changes you did? If those changes had been made earlier, could we have played this way earlier?

Second Hour:

Coach, through 10 games, our slot receivers, Sean Riley and Nykeim Johnson have 53 receptions for 350 yards and 1TD. Last year, in 13 games they had 105 catches for 1,321 yards and 7TDs. Sean has also gone from 262 yards on 16 punt returns and 1TD to 139 yards on 13 returns and 0 TDs. Why haven’t they been able to be as productive this season?


The Show
(I sometimes re-arrange the comments so that statements made on the same subject are reported together, even if they came at different points of the show.)

(Program notes: the Dino Babers Show will be from 6PM-8PM the rest of the season. The Jim Boeheim Show, which begins on Tuesday, 11/12, will still be from 7PM-9PM. The Boeheim Show will be on Tuesday for the first two weeks, (11/12-11/19), then move to Thursdays. The Babers show will be on Tuesday the 26th with no Jim Boeheim Show that week.)

Sorry folks: I forgot that the Gomez segment is now on at 6PM, before Matt Park’s main show with the coach at 7PM instead of the previous arrangement of having Gomez follow Matt. As a result I missed the Gomez segment, (the first hour of tonight’s show). If anything profound or controversial was discussed there, (rare for the Gomez segment), I don’t have it. Also, I only asked my first question. The second one will have to wait for next Tuesday’s show.

Matt said that the Duke was “the sort of blood-letting team effort we’ve been waiting for.” (Is that what we’ve been waiting for?) Dino Babers: “it was good to see the kids having fun and getting good results. We haven’t done a lot of things right but we got it right in this game.”

Matt said that the field was very windy. DB: “It determined when to run and when to throw. Duke took the wind in the third period. I thought it was odd. If you can catch up and then get the wind for the fourth quarter….Instead we went into the wind in the third quarter. We wanted to make that the shortest quarter of the year so we ran the ball and snapped it in 1-2 seconds. They knew what they were doing and decided to throw the ball more. We knew we had a quarterback who could cut the wind and they didn’t. (Or break the wind.) I love the Dome but it’s fun to figure out these things in weather conditions.“

I called in my question about whether the changes made were necessary to this kind of performance. DB: “The biggest thing was that we cut back defensively. It was a lot of fun. We ran around with a lot of energy. The rest was taking care of your bother. You never know with that stuff. You have to see if it can be maintained. Coaches are smart. The offensive line changes were necessary. Carlos was bad early at making the snaps. Airon had to help training. He wanted to play tackle so he had to help train his replacement. About two weeks ago Carlos looked like he was getting good enough. But Florida State had that nose tackle we call “Big Nasty” (Marvin Wilson). He worked well last week so we thought we’d see this week.” Matt said that there’s a huge difference between an experienced center and an inexperienced center. Dino repeated a point form a previous show: that in football, as in baseball, (and other sports), you need “strength up the middle.”

Part of that is McKinley “Bear” Williams who “lengthened our rotation” on the defensive line, allowing players like Josh Black and Ken Ruff to have fresher legs.

They discussed the use of video reviews on a couple of plays. Matt felt that Moe Neal should have been credited with a touchdown when he hit the pylon with the ball. Dino thought his knee was down at the one. (I felt that he hit front of the pylon, not the top of it). DB: “Sterling had a punt out on the 3 and they put it on the five, which would have allowed them to get a normal punt off, rather than a tight formation punt. I was a little disappointed with some of those.” (I hope Dino doesn’t get fined.)

Matt said that the victory “keeps hope alive to go to a bowl game if we can get past Louisville and Wake Forest”. Dino isn’t thinking past Louisville. He still had baseball on his mind as he called the Louisville Coach “Centerfield”. He admitted that he hadn’t seen Appalachian State play since they beat Michigan. But he’s impressed with what Coach Satterfield has done at Louisville, having taken over a team in disarray. “They recruit for their system, just like we do. Offensively, they’ve got the guys they need. One defense, not yet.” Matt mentioned that Louisville has played in a number of high scoring games this year, especially a 62-59 victory over Wake Forest. Dino noted that Louisville has a 1,000 rusher already,. That’s Dino’s goal at Syracuse. He had a couple of them in the same year at EIU. “It’s been disappointing at Syracuse but its coming.” He noted that our last two scoring drives came with our second string line.

He said that Louisville has the 4th or 5th best offense in the conference, much better than Duke. But they don’t have Lamar Jackson. “I like our chances much better with Lamar in the NFL than with Lamar still here.” Matt: “the assumption that his game wouldn’t translate to the NFL is turning out to be wrong.” Dino: “I won’t say that he makes them (NFL defenders) look silly. I’ll just say that he makes them look normal.” Matt said that Louisville has tall and fast receivers. DB: “it will be a good battle with our defensive backs. If they are going to pass, we are going to rush the passer.”

Patrick, age 8, followed up his question from last week. “Who is your favorite NFL quarterback – now and all-time). The first part wasn’t tough. Dino coached Jimmy Garoppolo at Eastern Illinois. All time: he always liked Roger Staubach and Fran Tarkington. He also offered this pearl: “If you look at the film, Archie Manning was better than either of his sons, Peyton or Eli. And it wasn’t even close.” Coach said he felt offended by Patrick- when he first came in he waved to Patrick who ignored him and just kept watching the TV set. “It will take a while but I’ll get over it – someday.”

Jerome of Syracuse wanted to know why we don’t pass over the middle more. Dino said we do: both of Triston Jackson’s catches were over the middle and so are all the throws to the tight ends, although Luke Benson had the speed to break his outside.

“Tommy DeVito has played a lot of games where he wasn’t as healthy as we wanted. He engineered the offense extremely well. There were a couple of bad calls that stalled drives. (Watch it Dino!)

SU was playing soccer in the NCAA tournament vs. Rhode Island. (I thought soccer was a spring sport.) Coach Babers has watched a lot of soccer games in his time: his daughters have played it. He likes it but can’t stand the offsides rule. “If a man is fast, why can’t he use his speed to get down the field?” Matt asked if he’d be happy if a guy just stood there to ‘cherry pick’ a goal deep in the other team’s territory. Dino saw no problem =with that. “It’s just like basketball”.

They talked about Jim Boeheim coaching in a game with a son on either team. Dino’s coached a son-in-law but he has no sons. “Imagine slamming your fist on a table saying “We’ve got to cover that guy!” and it’s your son! How do they right scouting reports on the coach’s son?” Matt said there were occasions when Jim was shouting at referees to call fouls on his son.

Matt mentioned that Dakota Davis was the ACC offensive lineman of the week and Lakeim Williams was the linebacker. Davis “had 6 knockdowns. He’s a big baby who finally threw his weight around like “I’m big and you aren’t”. He takes them to a place where they don’t want to be. Williams “Was flat hunting people down with speed. He can tackle in the open field.

Marty from Tampa wondered if, late in the year, we practice outside to get used to the weather conditions. Matt wondered if they flip a coin to see where they will practice. DB: “We only flip coins to see who kicks off. The Dome is sacred ground. We go there only for the games, unlike some previous teams. We want to go all out in practice. (As if practicing in the Dome would prevent that.) We practice outdoors except when players have colds or flu. We don’t want those things to get worse and make them really sick.”

During Thanksgiving, they will “Be the only guys on campus. NCAA restrictions prevent the coaches from interacting with them but they can still, watch film. “I hope they do- just like NFL players do.” Dino was proud of his players who wanted to speak out on the campus incidents of racism and bigotry.

They spent the last minutes of the show with Nick Monroe, who coaches the safeties and nickel backs. Matt asked him about that “key third quarter stretch”. Andre Cisco’s first career pick six was “electrifying” and “set the tone for the rest of the game”. “Army” Armstrong forced a fumble that Evan Foster picked up and ran with, fumbled and recovered to set up another score. “We actually teach them how to recover fumbles. You won’t bend with your back. You bend with their knees. But the worst ball-handlers are the defensive players. Fortunately, he got it back for us. We had to give him something for that fumble, though.” They “haven’t had a lot of sleep thinking about Louisville’s skill players. They can take it to 6th street.” Matt suggested that 4th street might be a better destination.
 
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I asked my question in the 1st hour, which was basically it seemed like the game was out of hand at the end of the 3rd and you had said it's hard to get 2nd stringers experience with the competitiveness of the ACC. So why wait until late in the 4th quarter to sub?
Was very surprised at his answer. He said something along the lines of the OL was doing very well and they wanted to get 2 100-yard rushers in the game. Once that was accomplished, he went to the 2's. He didn't address the late Defensive substitutions.

Seemed like an odd reason to me, as I think the benefit of keeping the starters healthy and getting the 2's some game experience and seeing what they could do would be more important, but that's what he stated was his reasoning.
 
The offensive line changes were necessary. Carlos was bad early at making the snaps. Airon had to help training. He wanted to play tackle so he had to help train his replacement. About two weeks ago Carlos looked like he was getting good enough. But Florida State had that nose tackle we call “Big Nasty” (Marvin Wilson). He worked well last week so we thought we’d see this week.” Matt said that there’s a huge difference between an experienced center and an inexperienced center. Dino repeated a point form a previous show: that in football, as in baseball, (and other sports), you need “strength up the middle.”

Perfectly reasonable explanation as to why it did not happen earlier...
 
I would think having been kicked around like we had been the previous weeks that they wanted to put a big exclamation point on this one, and they did.
 
I get the offsides rule in soccer but i also see there is very little scoring and in many games very few chances.. Hockey is low scoring but not for lack of chances. why not make it more like lacrosse so that less people can go into one end and more like lacrosse so that players couldnt stand by the goalie but could be closer to the scoring end.. less bodies around the goal more space more scoring.
 
I get the offsides rule in soccer but i also see there is very little scoring and in many games very few chances.. Hockey is low scoring but not for lack of chances. why not make it more like lacrosse so that less people can go into one end and more like lacrosse so that players couldnt stand by the goalie but could be closer to the scoring end.. less bodies around the goal more space more scoring.
Forza, you want to take this one ?
 
I asked my question in the 1st hour, which was basically it seemed like the game was out of hand at the end of the 3rd and you had said it's hard to get 2nd stringers experience with the competitiveness of the ACC. So why wait until late in the 4th quarter to sub?
Was very surprised at his answer. He said something along the lines of the OL was doing very well and they wanted to get 2 100-yard rushers in the game. Once that was accomplished, he went to the 2's. He didn't address the late Defensive substitutions.

Seemed like an odd reason to me, as I think the benefit of keeping the starters healthy and getting the 2's some game experience and seeing what they could do would be more important, but that's what he stated was his reasoning.

Total shot in the dark, but maybe it is for recruiting purposes? "Look potential game changing RB recruit, I understand we have some great RB's at SU, but look!- We have multiple guys running for 100 yards in games, you will get opportunities."

I also think this was the reason for Ryan Alexander starting as long as he did. They didn't want to alienate potential future grad transfers even though Alexander probably shouldn't have been starting.
 
I get the offsides rule in soccer but i also see there is very little scoring and in many games very few chances.. Hockey is low scoring but not for lack of chances. why not make it more like lacrosse so that less people can go into one end and more like lacrosse so that players couldnt stand by the goalie but could be closer to the scoring end.. less bodies around the goal more space more scoring.

I used to think this too. My boys both play and I watch a lot of EPL with my oldest. The offsides rule leads to better build up and requires timing and great passing - the stuff that makes soccer a beautiful game. I totally get wanting more scoring, but it’s pretty great now. It took me a year to really appreciate it.

The biggest plus for soccer is the “no breaks for commercials” and “non stop action” ... if I watch a match and then watch football it feels really really slow
 
Total shot in the dark, but maybe it is for recruiting purposes? "Look potential game changing RB recruit, I understand we have some great RB's at SU, but look!- We have multiple guys running for 100 yards in games, you will get opportunities."

I also think this was the reason for Ryan Alexander starting as long as he did. They didn't want to alienate potential future grad transfers even though Alexander probably shouldn't have been starting.
Are they recruiting any potential game changing RB recruits, and if they are, is 1 game like this really going to make a difference?
 
dino really playing the room last night . much better mood after a win.
 
Are they recruiting any potential game changing RB recruits, and if they are, is 1 game like this really going to make a difference?

Not sure, maybe they would like to have two 100-yard rushers every week? This is the first game our run game didn't look like garbage.

If I was a recruit I would look at the YPG for rushers on the season...
 
“Danny DeVito has played a lot of games where he wasn’t as healthy as we wanted. He engineered the offense extremely well. There were a couple of bad calls that stalled drives. (Watch it Dino!)

Thank you for these weekly recaps. Two questions about this part of your write up as I wasn't able to listen to the show:

1,) Was your "(Watch it Dino!)" because he slipped up and actually said "Danny" when referring to Tommy?

2.) The "couple of bad calls that stalled drives" - did you get the impression he was referencing officiating or play calls?

Thanks!
 
I get the offsides rule in soccer but i also see there is very little scoring and in many games very few chances.. Hockey is low scoring but not for lack of chances. why not make it more like lacrosse so that less people can go into one end and more like lacrosse so that players couldnt stand by the goalie but could be closer to the scoring end.. less bodies around the goal more space more scoring.

Diminishing marginal value.

Goals in soccer are valuable, if you're a huge fan of a particular team and they score, there's a lot of emotion there. It's one of the things that has caused me to lose interest in BB, especially the NBA. It's hard to find value (for me) in every play/score. I think it's what makes soccer great, scoring is kind of a treasured thing.
 
scoring should be valued but the ability to score should be too. But the ability of a team if they score to shut the game down also takes away from the game
 
Diminishing marginal value.

Goals in soccer are valuable, if you're a huge fan of a particular team and they score, there's a lot of emotion there. It's one of the things that has caused me to lose interest in BB, especially the NBA. It's hard to find value (for me) in every play/score. I think it's what makes soccer great, scoring is kind of a treasured thing.
I see it differently. Nobody ever scores in soccer, so it's like the boy who cried wolf... hard to get excited when 99% of kicks just result in more kicks.
 
Thank you for these weekly recaps. Two questions about this part of your write up as I wasn't able to listen to the show:

1,) Was your "(Watch it Dino!)" because he slipped up and actually said "Danny" when referring to Tommy?

2.) The "couple of bad calls that stalled drives" - did you get the impression he was referencing officiating or play calls?

Thanks!

1) No, that was me screwing up. I hadn't done that one in a while and thought I was over it.

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2) I assumed he was referencing the refs. I didn't want him to get fined.
 
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scoring should be valued but the ability to score should be too. But the ability of a team if they score to shut the game down also takes away from the game


I'm never bored watching soccer but never as excited as I am for other sports. I get frustrated waiting for the big moment, which often seems to be as much due to luck in being in the right place at the right time as design. I just have an impression of defense strangling offense. A hockey or lacrosse goal is barely bigger than the goalie and a soccer goal is the size of my living room. Yet soccer has by far the lowest scoring of the straight goal sports and the fewest saves. They wind up deciding games by having players go one-on-one with the goalie after it ends in a tie. Why not have some fast breaks and break-aways and going one-on-one with the goalie in the flow of the game and avoid the ties?
 
soccer blows as a spectator sport. i'll admit it's great exercise for kids and requires little equipment .
 
keep all the rules. just have less bodies.. hockey realized ties are part of the game but 3x3 is pretty fun too.
 
its doing well in countries that dont have TVs or any real sports.
 
thank you kyle rote jr. franz beckenbauer and pele.hey i grew up in the 70's and was told soccer was the the next big sport in america . it ain't . never will be. not north america anyways. i played all 3 and speaking for myself i'd rather watch lacrosse or hockey. hell i'd even rather watch NASCAR than a soccer game.
cuz driving is more fun than sleeping.
 
thank you kyle rote jr. franz beckenbauer and pele.hey i grew up in the 70's and was told soccer was the the next big sport in america . it ain't . never will be. not north america anyways. i played all 3. and myself i'd rather watch lacrosse or hockey. hell i'd even rather watch NASCAR than a soccer game. cuz i like to drive.
Never understood NASCAR. Tried to get into it, but never could.

Driving 95 up to NY and back is enough for me. That’s kind of what watching NASCAR feels like.
 

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