The Final BET Projections

[Marsh01]

FIRST ROUND - TUESDAY MARCH 6TH​

AFTERNOON SESSION​

#9 UCONN VS. #16 DEPAUL (NOON - ESPN2)​

#12 ST. JOHNS VS. #13 PITTSBURGH (2:30 ESPN2)​

NIGHT SESSION​

#10 SETON HALL VS. #15 PROVIDENCE (7:00 ESPNU)​

#11 RUTGERS VS. #14 VILLANOVA (9:30 ESPNU)​

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SECOND ROUND - WEDNESDAY MARCH 7TH​

AFTERNOON SESSION​

#9 UCONN - #16 DEPAUL WINNER VS. #8 WEST VIRGINIA (NOON ESPN)​

#12 ST. JOHNS- #13 PITTSBURGH WINNER VS. #5 GEORGETOWN (2:30 ESPN)​

NIGHT SESSION​

#10 SETON HALL- #15 PROVIDENCE WINNER VS. #7 LOUISVILLE (7:00 ESPN)​

#11 RUTGERS - #14 VILLANOVA WINNER VS. #6 SOUTH FLORIDA (9:30 ESPN)​

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QUARTERFINALS - THURSDAY MARCH 8TH​

AFTERNOON SESSION​

#9 UCONN - #16 DEPAUL - #8 WEST VIRGINIA WINNER VS. #1 SYRACUSE (NOON ESPN)​

#12 ST. JOHNS - #13 PITTSBURGH - #5 GEORGETOWN VS. #4 CINCINNATI (2:30 ESPN)​

NIGHT SESSION​

#10 SETON HALL - #15 PROVIDENCE - #7 LOUISVILLE WINNER VS #2 MARQUETTE (7:00 ESPN)​

#11 RUTGERS- # 14 VILLANOVA- #6 SOUTH FLORIDA WINNER VS. #3 NOTRE DAME (9:30 ESPN)​

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CONFERENCE STANDINGS​

1. SYRACUSE 17-1​

2. MARQUETTE 14-4​

3. NOTRE DAME 13-5​

4. CINCINNATI 12-6 DOUBLE BYE INTO THURSDAYS QUARTERFINALS​

5. GEORGETOWN 12-6​

6. SOUTH FLORIDA 12-6​

7. LOUISVILLE 10-8​

8. WEST VIRGINIA 9-9 SINGLE BYE INTO WEDNESDAYS ROUND​

9. UCONN 8-10​

10. SETON HALL 8-10​

11. RUTGERS 6-12​

12. ST. JOHNS 6-12​

13. PITTSBURGH 5-13​

14. VILLANOVA 5-13​

15. PROVIDENCE 4-14​

16. DEPAUL 3-15​

 

[Madbiker]

UConn finished 8-10 not 9-9. How did they get ahead of SH?

 

[Marsh01]

UConn finished 8-10 not 9-9. How did they get ahead of SH?

fixed...sorry

They won a wacky tiebreaker

 

[44PRIDE]

Am I the only person who doesn't really care about the BE tournament all that much this year?

 

[jdubs30]

Am I the only person who doesn't really care about the BE tournament all that much this year?

I want to win it but I wouldn't be heartbroken if we lost.

But the prospect of beating UConn 3 times in 1 year and beating ND on Saturday (meaning we would have beaten all 15 Big East teams) is too cool to pass up.

 

[Marsh01]

I want to win everything.

 

[jekelish]

Who could have guessed we might get the preseason #4 after they've already had to win two games to get to us?

 

[Toga]

What time would our Friday game be?

 

[Marsh01]

What time would our Friday game be?

7:00

 

[Upstate]

6 of the last 10 Nat'l Champs won their conference tourney.

 

[rrlbees]

I fixed USF record for you.

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[Marsh01]

I fixed USF record for you.

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Did I mess it up? Eyes are going crossed...

 

[rrlbees]

Did I mess it up? Eyes are going crossed...

You had it 10-6.

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[Marsh01]

You had it 10-6.

Sent from my DROIDX

Oy, thanks.

 

[KaiserUEO]

i still cant get over the fact that if they only took the top 12 to NYC, pitt and nova wouldnt have to get on a bus monday.

 

[Marsh01]

i still cant get over the fact that if they only took the top 12 to NYC, pitt and nova wouldnt have to get on a bus monday.

I said the same thing. Amazing.

 

[mountaincuse]

6 of the last 10 Nat'l Champs won their conference tourney.

Who were the four that didn't? Only really need you to list one of them...

Means nothing.

 

[SWC75]

We've never won, or even tied for the Big East regular season title and won the BET in the same year. That's another unprecedented accomplishment for this team to shoot for.

 

[Upstate]

Who were the four that didn't? Only really need you to list one of them...

Means nothing.

sure it means something. it sure isn't everything, though, but I think it shows that it doesn't benefit a team to lose in the conference tourney as opposed to winning it. Rest is overrated when you're 18-22 years old.

 

[cuseguy]

Since the Hall beat UConn and they both finished 8-10, it must be a whacky tiebreaker.

 

[DNABB5]

I want to win everything.

ALL IN

 

[AccuRater]

fixed...sorry

They won a wacky tiebreaker

They split their 2 games. SH won on January 3 by 12. UConn won on February 4 by 23. Was margin of victory the tie breaker? Or most recent win? I don't know.

 

[SkanSU]

OK...OK ... do we still have to face UConn for a 3rd tme!!! I hope not! I want to win them all... on the one hand ... but the team could use the rest for the NCAA ... decisions, decisions. While I want ND very badly I hate that slow down game they play ... heavens to Princeton.

 

[orange79]

They split their 2 games. SH won on January 3 by 12. UConn won on February 4 by 23. Was margin of victory the tie breaker? Or most recent win? I don't know.

OK, here goes. First, the tiebreaker rules.

TIE-BREAKING PROCEDURE FOR SEEDING
TWO-TEAM TIE
1. Regular season head-to-head results (one or two games).
If the tied teams split their two games, then proceed to Step 2 below.
2. Each team’s record vs. the team or tied teams occupying the highest position in the standings.
Continue down through the standings until one team gains an advantage. When comparing
records against a single team or collective tied teams (before ties are broken), the following may
apply:
a. If the games played against the team or group are equal, winning percentage prevails.
b. If the games played against the team or group are unequal, the following scenarios apply:
i. Most wins do prevail only if the team with fewer wins could not equal that win
total if they played the same number of games. Two examples of many scenarios
that do provide an advantage:
1) Team A 2-0 Team B 0-1
2) Team A 3-0 Team B 1-1
ii. Most wins do not prevail if the team with fewer wins could equal or surpass the
win total of the other team. Two examples of many scenarios that do not provide an
advantage:
1) Team A 1-1 Team B 0-1
2) Team A 2-0 Team B 1-0
iii. Fewer losses do not prevail if the teams have the same number of wins and if the
team with fewer games could equal or surpass the loss total of the other team. Two
examples of many scenarios that do not provide an advantage:
1) Team A 1-0 Team B 1-1
2) Team A 0-1 Team B 0-2
c. If an advantage is not determined, proceed to the next team or group in the standings for
comparison.
d. If the tie cannot be broken after continuing down through the last team or teams in the
standings, revert back to comparing records against the top teams in order and allow
winning percentage to prevail even if there is a comparison of unequal games. Only then, if
the percentages are both 1.000, is 2-0 better than 1-0. However, the reverse is not true – no
team gains advantage when all have a .000 winning percentage (0-1 is never better than 0-2).
3. COIN FLIP
If any ties still exist after implementing all of the above tie-breaking procedures, a coin flip is required.
The procedure takes place at The BIG EAST Conference office immediately following the conclusion of
the last regular season conference game. Commissioner John Marinatto or his designee will administer
this procedure. This session is open to the media and to athletic department representatives of the tied
teams.

OK. Head to head, they split. On to step 2.

• Both lost to SU - UConn twice. But according to the rules, this does not provide an 'advantage' for SH (see above - 0-1 is never better than 0-2).

• Moving on to Marquette - both lost.

• ND - SH lost, UConn went 1-1. But according to the rules, this does not provide an advantage to UConn, as SH could match UConn's record against Marq if they had played the same number of games.

• Cinci - both lost.

• Georgetown - The Hall finally wins. They beat GT while UConn lost.

Here is the actual tie breaking procedure from the BE web site - also contains the procedure for a 3-way tie (or more).

 

[reedny]

Am I the only person who doesn't really care about the BE tournament all that much this year?

Interesting sentiment in a thread that probably took (in all versions) 20 hours to put together.