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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 2059873, member: 363"] Tipphill raises some valid points as do others, tough to tell who is our recruiting who in certain scenarios, if we were 36th and Brand X was 48, are we recruiting that much better? I guess but who the really knows. All that matters is what is on the field. Rutgers stunk beyond belief last year and we stunk rather badly too. I will agree with Tiphill thought that this class looks like much the same for a Syracuse recruiting class, the post that started this thread gets posted every year, however I will say I am tired of watching our team go out on the field and fail the look test before the game is even played to schools like NC St. I do agree that Dino needs help, dome needs renovating, budgets need to open up a bit, we need a overhaul because right now the program is fledgling terribly and nobody cares that we were good 20-25 years ago. [/QUOTE]