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Message: [QUOTE="tipphill, post: 2060783, member: 4809"] don't be surprised because i totally get that.by the way i liked maloney. the issue is recruiting. i grow weary of the unrealistic statements of how wonderful everything is and how certain teams,and i will mention rutgers,here are laughed at,when we are below or at their level. as old guys, we would never even be discussing a team like them.now we can barely keep up. i also like marrone who was making that gradual improvement by coaching up which i believe babers will as well. i don't like the kevin bacon animal house "all is well" statements. i differ with that and post my opinion. i still feel there is something systemically wrong with administration and program. it should not take this many years to climb out of the abyss---and that cannot be ignored. i would be interested in your take on that . thanks for your thoughtful and courteous reply. seriously--not meant as sarcastic [/QUOTE]