The last 44 seconds of ok/Baylor took 18 minutes

[OrangeFoo]

I dvr'd the game yesterday and at 4 est there were 44 seconds left in Baylor/Oklahoma... The clock hit 0:00 at 4:18... Talk about a mind numbing experience. College hoops has way too many timeouts... Makes me appreciate JB letting guys play without over coaching so much more.

 

[jordoo]

That was brutal we knew Baylor was going to lose 25min earlier. Really its unacceptable for college bball and they need to fix it because it happens all the time and not just in close games. Coaches not practice these strategies in games that they have no chance of winning so that they can do it better in close games. The announcers will even say its for practice Oh Lord down 14 with a minute to go.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

Most of that time was taken by the refs reviewing that patently obvious wrong call they made when the OK guy dribbled it off the Baylor defender's foot, but the refs called it off OK. Tight game, wrong call, they HAD to see that on the replay, but they didn't have the onions to reverse themselves in front of the home crowd. So they watched it over and over and over again, hoping it would somehow go away, but it didn't.

Kudos to ESPN for switching Sports Center over to a live feed of the game, until the OK-Baylor fiasco ended. There's a lot to criticize about ESPN, but I give them credit for that move.

 

[jordoo]

Most of that time was taken by the refs reviewing that patently obvious wrong call they made when the OK guy dribbled it off the Baylor defender's foot, but the refs called it off OK. Tight game, wrong call, they HAD to see that on the replay, but they didn't have the onions to reverse themselves in front of the home crowd. So they watched it over and over and over again, hoping it would somehow go away, but it didn't.

Kudos to ESPN for switching Sports Center over to a live feed of the game, until the OK-Baylor fiasco ended. There's a lot to criticize about ESPN, but I give them credit for that move.

No replay should ever take that long. You called this if you don't see clear evidence to the contrary within 30sec be done with it.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

No replay should ever take that long. You called this if you don't see clear evidence to the contrary within 30sec be done with it.

Yeah, it reminded me of the line from Cinderella Man, when Paul Giamatti, Braddock's (Russell Crowe) manager said when the title decision took so long from the judges:

"If they take this long to decide, they're going to decide to screw somebody!"

And they did here. Fortunately the right team won. Not for us, but in this game.

 

[SteveC]

I dvr'd the game yesterday and at 4 est there were 44 seconds left in Baylor/Oklahoma... The clock hit 0:00 at 4:18... Talk about a mind numbing experience. College hoops has way too many timeouts... Makes me appreciate JB letting guys play without over coaching so much more.

That was the game BEFORE ours right? i was tired and got far more ticked off than i should have. That took so long! seemed like back to back to back timeouts by OU, along with 2 official reviews? ridiculous.

 

[OrangeFoo]

Most of that time was taken by the refs reviewing that patently obvious wrong call they made when the OK guy dribbled it off the Baylor defender's foot, but the refs called it off OK. Tight game, wrong call, they HAD to see that on the replay, but they didn't have the onions to reverse themselves in front of the home crowd. So they watched it over and over and over again, hoping it would somehow go away, but it didn't.

Kudos to ESPN for switching Sports Center over to a live feed of the game, until the OK-Baylor fiasco ended. There's a lot to criticize about ESPN, but I give them credit for that move.

Actually that call took up until 4:03... The next 15 minutes were all game time.

I think there should be 2 time outs per half along with the tv timeouts and that's it. The NBA has such a better product all around and this is coming from someone who believed the opposite 10 years ago.

 

[newmexicuse]

That was brutal we knew Baylor was going to lose 25min earlier. Really its unacceptable for college bball and they need to fix it because it happens all the time and not just in close games. Coaches not practice these strategies in games that they have no chance of winning so that they can do it better in close games. The announcers will even say its for practice Oh Lord down 14 with a minute to go.

They actually hit the game tying shot just a fraction of a tick after time expired. About 1 or 2 tenths of a second from a great comeback. Maybe an answer to the problem is to either reduce the number of timeouts a team can take in the last two minutes to two or make any TOs in the last two minutes of the 30 sec variety.

 

[NateW]

Those 18 minutes were the most bullsh!t thing I've seen in 30 years.

 

[jordoo]

They actually hit the game tying shot just a fraction of a tick after time expired. About 1 or 2 tenths of a second from a great comeback. Maybe an answer to the problem is to either reduce the number of timeouts a team can take in the last two minutes to two or make any TOs in the last two minutes of the 30 sec variety.

Only because they got the obvious replay wrong to begin with. I like the 20sec time outs only but should be after the last under 4 tv TO.

 

[pfister1]

This was one example of a larger problem that TV is causing with sporting events. TV has completely upset the flow of games in my view. There is so much standing around and waiting that goes on in all games because of television commercial breaks that it often completely interferes with the flow of the game.

There was a play yesterday. I think it may have been near the end of the first half. Pitt has the ball and the shot clock is winding down the ball goes out of bounds off of SU with .02 seconds left on the shot clock and rather than force Pitt to inbound the ball continue a possession that was going nowhere or use one of their timeouts, an official's timeout is called to work some commercials in. Now Jamie Dixon has a chance to draw up a play to try to salvage the possession and hasn't even had to burn one of his TOs to do it.

Add in reviews to the TV timeouts and the games at times slow to a glacial pace.

And this isn't only a problem with College Basketball, its also an issue imo with College Football and the NFL and NBA as well.

 

[swish7]

I didn't log the time of that event, but I could not believe how long it took to DVR through it 18 mins? Wow. That is unacceptable.

 

[CaptainJ]

I little devil's advocate here folks, just to warn the more sensitive amongst you.

A society that focuses it's ire on something like this must be doing really well.

The idea of changing rules to account for this anomaly defies logic when one considers how often it occurs in relation to how often it doesn't. Further, newmexicuse shows how close it was to being successful, and at the very least is the proper practice in a rare in game opportunity for use later whenever some of you would figure it is warranted. As a coach I would want that opportunity to discipline my team and use that it when it presented itself, and not be beholden to fans or corporate interests or anything else that would stand in the way of the preparation of my team. Of course most fans don't have a coaches' mentality, and unfortunately a number of coaches don't seem to either. Chances are the Syracuse game being on probably effected the emotions and the latter logic used to support them. In Blackjack "insurance" is called a sucker's bet. Wanting to prevent every anomaly in life, often at greater expense overall, would also seem to be an error in logic. I could be wrong though.

That said, I do understand the frustration of not being able to watch our game. Maybe if any rules be changed, one should consider the occasional moving the tip of networked games back, at least of to an extent, for network games. They savvy fans at the game would relax in the comfort of knowing they are taking one for the team with all the revenue generated by the network showing the game, and the fans at home wouldnt have to worry about missing any action. Seems like a reasonable compromise to keep all sides as happy as possible while not compromising the integrity of the game.

 

[EastCoast2]

College basketball does indeed have too many timeouts. I think 4 for the whole game is a better number. When players get trapped and can call a timeout, you rarely get dinged for calling it because teams rarely run out of TOs. You should be rewarded with trapping the other team, not just force a TO that most likely wouldn't be used.

 

[HarrisonJBounel]

College basketball does indeed have too many timeouts. I think 4 for the whole game is a better number. When players get trapped and can call a timeout, you rarely get dinged for calling it because teams rarely run out of TOs. You should be rewarded with trapping the other team, not just force a TO that most likely wouldn't be used.

They should learn from football. Fewer timeouts creates more of a sense of urgency and value re timeouts. Between TO's, fouls, TV, and now increased use of replay review, there is too much stoppage of play.