SWC75
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I’ve always been an NFL free agent. I don’t identify with new York City or Buffalo. I identify with Syracuse NY, which does not have an NFL team. I follow former Syracuse University players in their pro careers and sometimes, if the circumstances are right, (a star, face of the franchise type player on a Super Bowl contender), I might find myself rooting for that team to win, not just for the player to do well. Then I might continue rooting for that team even after they no longer have that player as long as they are still winning and thus fun to root for.
The Bills have had a dearth of Syracuse players over the years, (a missed opportunity to create some fans, it seems to me). So have the Jets. The Giants have had some SU guys but I spent so much of my youth rooting against them because I was a Jim Brown and thus the Browns fan I have never warmed to them. Actually, I think I’ll list the SU players that have played for the three New York teams since 1960, (I first followed pro football in 1961), before I get into my main subject here. This is from the SU media guide, pages 183-188.
Bills- Art Baker, Al Bemiller, David Byrd, Jim Cheyunski, Joe Donnelly, Deval Glover, Gene Grabosky, Bill Hurley, George Jakowenko, Keith Moody, Mike Shafer, Shamarko Thomas, Julian Wigham, Mike Williams, Blaise Winter, Glenn Young (16)
(Ernie Davis was drafted by the Bills: if he had signed with them and not gotten sick, I’d probably be a Bills fan)
Giants- Will Allen, Jay Bromley, Keith Bullock, Jamie Covington, Larry Csonka, Roger Davis, Riley Dixon, Amba Etta-Tawo, Greg Hanoian, Quentin Harris, Kyle Johnson, Scott Kiernan, Dick Lasse, Olindo Mare, Jameel McClain, Joe Morris, Ryan Nassib, Sean O’Connor, Justin Pugh, George Rooks, Rich Scanlon, Kelvin Smith, Matt Tarullo, David Tyree, Pat Woodcock (25)
Jets- Nick Bruckner, Rob Carpenter, Steve Chomyszak, Durell Eskridge, Brisley Estime, Paul Frase, Sean Hickey, Will Hunter, Dave Jacobs, Jim Jerome, Pat Kelly, Joe Kowaleski, Keon Lyn, Jerry Mackey, Art Monk, Rob Moore, Tim Moresco, Jim Nance, Jeff Pilon, Shamarko Thomas, Jarrod West, Terrance Wisdom (22)
That isn’t much to hitch your dreams to. Some of those names were legitimate great players, (Csonka, Monk, Nance), hanging on to their career well after their primes with teams they aren’t normally associated with. Joe Morris had some great years with the Giants but his career was cut off in his prime by injury. I was happy for Joe when his Giants won the Super Bowl but I was rooting for the Broncos, whom I had followed since the Floyd Little days. I also had an aversion to rooting for the new York teams because growing up in the 60’s and 70’s, not only were the Giants the brown’s chief rival but for years from the late 60s, the new York teams mostly stunk yet they were on TV all the time. it wasn’t like now with ESPN and NFL red zone. You got a double header on Sunday and the first game would be the Giants on CBS and the Bills on NBC, even if they and the team they were playing was out of contention and there were more interesting games elsewhere, including teams I was actually rooting for. That always made me resent the New York franchises a little.
These days I’m just sort of neutral toward the Bills, the Giants and the Jets. None of them made the playoffs this year and all three seem to have major rebuilding projects ahead. I wondered how many times all three teams had missed the playoffs. Then I wondered how many times all three had made the playoffs. then I wondered what was their best combined year. And their worst combined year. I realize that Bills fans are not fans of the Giants or the Jets, that Giants fans don’t care about the AFC until the Super Bowl and that Jets fans have their own problems to worry about. But I still wondered how the state had fared over the years so for a little while, I got interested in all three teams. I simply recorded their overall record, (regular season + post season, no exhibition games) and then added them up.
1960 Bills 5-8-1 Giants 6-4-2 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 18-19-3
1961 Bills 6-8-0 Giants 10-4-1 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 23-19-1
1962 Bills 7-6-1 Giants 12-3-0 Jets 5-9-0 Total: 24-18-1
1963 Bills 7-7-1 Giants 11-4-0 Jets 5-8-1 Total: 23-19-1
1964 Bills 13-2-0 Giants 2-10-2 Jets 5-8-1 Total: 20-20-3
1965 Bills 10-3-1 Giants 7-7-0 Jets 5-8-1 Total: 22-18-2
1966 Bills 9-5-1 Giants 1-12-1 Jets 6-6-2 Total: 16-23-4
1967 Bills 4-10-0 Giants 7-7-0 Jets 8-5-1 Total: 19-22-1
1968 Bills 1-12-1 Giants 7-7-0 Jets 13-3-0 Total: 21-22-1
1969 Bills 4-10-0 Giants 6-8-0 Jets 10-5-0 Total: 20-23-0
1970 Bills 3-10-1 Giants 9-5-0 Jets 4-10-0 Total: 16-25-1
1971 Bills 1-13-0 Giants 4-10-0 Jets 6-8-0 Total: 11-21-0
1972 Bills 4-9-1 Giants 8-6-0 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 19-22-1
1973 Bills 9-5-0 Giants 2-11-1 Jets 4-10-0 Total: 15-26-1
1974 Bills 9-6-0 Giants 2-12-0 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 18-25-0
1975 Bills 8-6-0 Giants 5-9-0 Jets 3-11-0 Total: 16-26-0
1976 Bills 2-12-0 Giants 3-11-0 Jets 3-11-0 Total: 8-34-0
1977 Bills 3-11-0 Giants 5-9-0 Jets 3-11-0 Total: 11-31-0
1978 Bills 5-11-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 19-29-0
1979 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 21-27-0
1980 Bills 11-6-0 Giants 4-12-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 19-30-0
1981 Bills 11-7-0 Giants 10-8-0 Jets 10-6-1 Total: 31-21-1
1982 Bills 4-5-0 Giants 4-5-0 Jets 8-4-0 Total: 16-14-0
1983 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 3-12-1 Jets 7-9-0 Total: 18-29-1
1984 Bills 2-14-0 Giants 10-8-0 Jets 7-9-0 Total: 19-31-0
1985 Bills 2-14-0 Giants 11-7-0 Jets 11-6-0 Total: 24-27-0
1986 Bills 4-12-0 Giants 17-2-0 Jets 11-7-0 Total: 32-21-0
1987 Bills 7-8-0 Giants 6-9-0 Jets 6-9-0 Total: 19-26-0
1988 Bills 13-5-0 Giants 10-6-0 Jets 8-7-1 Total: 31-18-1
1989 Bills 9-8-0 Giants 12-5-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 25-30-0
1990 Bills 15-4-0 Giants 16-3-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 37-17-0
1991 Bills 15-4-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 8-9-0 Total: 31-21-0
1992 Bills 14-6-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 29-28-0
1993 Bills 14-6-0 Giants 12-6-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 34-20-0
1994 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 9-7-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 22-26-0
1995 Bills 11-7-0 Giants 5-11-0 Jets 3-13-0 Total: 19-31-0
1996 Bills 10-7-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 1-15-0 Total: 17-27-0
1997 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 10-6-1 Jets 9-7-0 Total: 25-23-1
1998 Bills 10-7-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 13-4-0 Total: 31-19-0
1999 Bills 11-6-0 Giants 7-9-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 26-24-0
2000 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 14-5-0 Jets 9-7-0 Total: 31-20-0
2001 Bills 3-13-0 Giants 7-9-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 20-29-0
2002 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 10-7-0 Jets 9-8-0 Total: 27-23-0
2003 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 4-12-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 16-32-0
2004 Bills 9-7-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 25-24-0
2005 Bills 5-11-0 Giants 11-6-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 20-29-0
2006 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 25-24-0
2007 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 13-6-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 24-27-0
2008 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 12-5-0 Jets 9-7-0 Total: 28-21-0
2009 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 11-8-0 Total: 25-26-0
2010 Bills 4-12-0 Giants 10-6-0 Jets 13-6-0 Total: 27-24-0
2011 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 13-7-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 27-25-0
2012 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 9-7-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 21-27-0
2013 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 7-9-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 21-27-0
2014 Bills 9-7-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 19-29-0
2015 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 24-25-0
2016 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 11-6-0 Jets 5-11-0 Total: 23-26-0
2017 Bills 9-8-0 Giants 3-13-0 Jets 5-11-0 Total: 17-32-0
2018 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 5-11-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 15-33-0
Totals 428-494-8 456-466-9 412-504-8 1,296-1,464-25
The Bills have had 22 winning seasons, 32 losing seasons and 5 even seasons. They have played in the post season 18 times. They’ve won or shared their division title 8 times and won 2 AFL and 4 AFC championships. They have had the best record in the state 21 times.
The Giants have had 25 winning seasons, 25 losing seasons and 9 even seasons. They have played in the post season 20 times. They’ve won or shared their division title 11 times and won 5 NFC championships and 4 Super Bowls. They have had the best record in the state 22 times.
The Jets have had 19 winning seasons, 29 losing seasons and 11 even seasons. They have played in the post season 18 times. They’ve won or shared their division title 3 times and won 1 AFL championship and 1 Super Bowl. They have had the best record in the state 19 times.
Combined, the three teams have had 22 winning seasons, 36 losing season and 1 even season. They have played in the post season a combined 56 times. They have won or shared division titles 22 times. and won 2 AFL, 10 conference championships and 5 Super Bowls.
I think everyone can guess the best combined year. The worst was 1976: 8-34-0. I can still smell that year. Those crummy teams were on TV all the time!
There was one year when all three teams were in the playoffs: 1981. There have been 14 years when none of them were, 29 years when one of them was and 10 years when two of them were in. New York teams have met in the playoffs twice: The Bills beat the Jets 27-21 in the 1981 AFC Wildcard game and the Giants beat the Bills 20-18 in Super Bowl 25.
Pro Bowlers and AFL All-Stars:
Bills
QB- Drew Bledsoe, Doug Flutie, Jim Kelly, Jack Kemp, Tyrod Taylor
RB- Bobby Burnett, Greg Bell, Wray Carlton, Larry Centers, Joe Cribbs, Sam Gash, Cookie Gilchrist, Travis Henry, Marshaun Lynch, LaSean McCoy, O. J. Simpson, C. J. Spiller, Thurman Thomas
WR- Marlin Briscoe, Jerry Butler, Elbert Dubenion, J. D. Hill, Frank Lewis, James Lofton, Bill Miller, Eric Moulds, Andre Reed, Steve Tasker
TE- Ernie Warlick
OL- Howard Ballard, Stew Barber, Ruben Brown, Joe DeLaumielleure, Dave Foley, Dick Hudson, Kent Hull, Richie Incognito, Dan McGrew, Harold Olsen, Jason Peters, Ken Rice, Jim Ritcher, Mike Schneck, Tom Sestak, Billy Shaw, Wil Wolford, Eric Wood
DL- Sam Adams, Marcell Dareus, Tom Day, Jim Dunaway, Ron McDole, Chuck McMurtry, Aaron Schobel, Fred Smerlas, Bruce Smith, LaVerne Torczon, Ted Washington, Ben Williams, Kyle Williams, Mario Williams
LB- Lorenzo Alexander, Cornelius Bennett, Zach Brown, Shane Conlan, Sam Cowart, Ralph Felton, Harry Jacobs, Archie Matsos, Marve Matuszak, Bryce Paup, Takeo Spikes, Darryl Talley, John Tracey
DB- Bill Atkins, Butch Byrd, Jairus Byrd, Hagood Clarke, Nate Clements, Booker Edgerson, Stephone Gilmore, Micah Hyde, Robert James, Henry Jones, Richie McCabe, Terrence McGee, Nate Odoms, George Saimes, Jim Wagstaff
K/P- Bill Atkins, Pete Gogolak, Paul Maguire, Brian Moorman, Scott Norwood
KR- Steve Tasker
Giants
QB- Eli Manning, Phil Simms, Norm Snead, Fran Tarkington, Y.A.Tittle
RB-Tiki Barber, Saquon Barkley, Ernie Coy, Tucker Frederickson, Rodney Hampton, Ron Johnson, Joe Morris, Alex Webster
WR- Odell Beckham, Victor Cruz, Frank Gifford, Homer Jones, Jeremey Shockey, Del Shofner, Steve Smith, David Tyree
TE- Mark Bavaro, Jeremey Shockey, Aaron Thomas
OL- Roosevelt Brown, Darrell Dess, Dave Diehl, Jumbo Elliott, Greg Larson, Bart Oates. Sean O’Hara, Williams Roberts, Chris Snee, Ron Stone, Jack Stroud, Ray Wietecha
DL- Jack Gregory, Roosevelt Grier, Erik Howard, Jim Katcavage, John LoVetere, Leonard Marshall, Json Pierre-Paul, Andy Robustelli, Michael Strahan, Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora
LB- Jesse Armstead, Carl Banks, Harry Carson, Landon Collins, Zak DeOssie, Sam Huff, Pepper Johnson, Antonio Pierce, Lawrence Taylor, Brad Van Pelt
DB- Erich Barnes, Landon Collins, Tony Greene, Mark Haynes, Jamoris Jenkins, Terry Kinard, Spider Lockhardt, Dick Lynch, Jimmy Patton, Dominic Rodgers-Cromartie, Antrel Rolle, Reyna Thompson, Willie Williams
K/P- Josh Brown, John Carney, Jeff Feagles, Ali Haji-Shiekh, Dave Jennings, Sean Landeta, Aldrick Rojas
KR- Spider Lockhardt, Dave Meggett
Jets
QB- Al Dorow, Boomer Esiason, Brett Favre, Joe Namath, Ken O’Brien, Vinnie Testaverde, Tom Tupa
RB- Richie Anderson, Emerson Boozer, Dick Christy, Chris Ivory, Thomas Jones, Curtis Martin, Bill Mathis, Freeman McNeil, John Riggins, Matt Snell, Leon Washington
WR- Jerome Barkum, Keyshawn Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Don Maynard, Rob Moore, Art Powell, George Sauer, Al Toon, Bake Turner, Wesley Walker
TE- Rich Caster, Mickey Shuler
OL- Sam DeLuca, Alan Faneca, D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Dan Ficca, Joe Fields, Dave Herman, Winston Hill, Mike Hudock, Nick Mangold, Kevin Mawae, Bob Mischak, Brandon Moore, Sherman Plunkett, Marvin Powell, John Schmitt
DL- John Abraham, Verlon Biggs, John Elliott, Shaun Ellis, Mark Gastineau, Dick Guesman, Kris Jenkins, Joe Klecko, Gerry Philbin, Sheldon Richardson, Muhammed Wilkerson, Leonard Williams, Sid Youngelman
LB- Al Atkinson, Larry Grantham, Mo Lewis, Lance Mehl, Mike Stratton, Jonathan Vilma
DB- Jamal Adams, Antonio Cromartie, Dick Felt, Aaron Glenn, LaRon Landry, Ty Law, Eric McMillan, Justin Miller, Dainard Paulson, Darrell Revis, Johnny Sample, Willie West
K/P- Dick Guesman, Curley Johnson, Jason Myers, Andre Roberts, Tom Tupa, Jim Turner
KR- Aaron Glenn
I’ll leave it to the true Bills, Giants and Jets fans to come up with their all-time teams, (Giants since 1960), and describe how a round-robin between them would have gone.
The Bills have had a dearth of Syracuse players over the years, (a missed opportunity to create some fans, it seems to me). So have the Jets. The Giants have had some SU guys but I spent so much of my youth rooting against them because I was a Jim Brown and thus the Browns fan I have never warmed to them. Actually, I think I’ll list the SU players that have played for the three New York teams since 1960, (I first followed pro football in 1961), before I get into my main subject here. This is from the SU media guide, pages 183-188.
Bills- Art Baker, Al Bemiller, David Byrd, Jim Cheyunski, Joe Donnelly, Deval Glover, Gene Grabosky, Bill Hurley, George Jakowenko, Keith Moody, Mike Shafer, Shamarko Thomas, Julian Wigham, Mike Williams, Blaise Winter, Glenn Young (16)
(Ernie Davis was drafted by the Bills: if he had signed with them and not gotten sick, I’d probably be a Bills fan)
Giants- Will Allen, Jay Bromley, Keith Bullock, Jamie Covington, Larry Csonka, Roger Davis, Riley Dixon, Amba Etta-Tawo, Greg Hanoian, Quentin Harris, Kyle Johnson, Scott Kiernan, Dick Lasse, Olindo Mare, Jameel McClain, Joe Morris, Ryan Nassib, Sean O’Connor, Justin Pugh, George Rooks, Rich Scanlon, Kelvin Smith, Matt Tarullo, David Tyree, Pat Woodcock (25)
Jets- Nick Bruckner, Rob Carpenter, Steve Chomyszak, Durell Eskridge, Brisley Estime, Paul Frase, Sean Hickey, Will Hunter, Dave Jacobs, Jim Jerome, Pat Kelly, Joe Kowaleski, Keon Lyn, Jerry Mackey, Art Monk, Rob Moore, Tim Moresco, Jim Nance, Jeff Pilon, Shamarko Thomas, Jarrod West, Terrance Wisdom (22)
That isn’t much to hitch your dreams to. Some of those names were legitimate great players, (Csonka, Monk, Nance), hanging on to their career well after their primes with teams they aren’t normally associated with. Joe Morris had some great years with the Giants but his career was cut off in his prime by injury. I was happy for Joe when his Giants won the Super Bowl but I was rooting for the Broncos, whom I had followed since the Floyd Little days. I also had an aversion to rooting for the new York teams because growing up in the 60’s and 70’s, not only were the Giants the brown’s chief rival but for years from the late 60s, the new York teams mostly stunk yet they were on TV all the time. it wasn’t like now with ESPN and NFL red zone. You got a double header on Sunday and the first game would be the Giants on CBS and the Bills on NBC, even if they and the team they were playing was out of contention and there were more interesting games elsewhere, including teams I was actually rooting for. That always made me resent the New York franchises a little.
These days I’m just sort of neutral toward the Bills, the Giants and the Jets. None of them made the playoffs this year and all three seem to have major rebuilding projects ahead. I wondered how many times all three teams had missed the playoffs. Then I wondered how many times all three had made the playoffs. then I wondered what was their best combined year. And their worst combined year. I realize that Bills fans are not fans of the Giants or the Jets, that Giants fans don’t care about the AFC until the Super Bowl and that Jets fans have their own problems to worry about. But I still wondered how the state had fared over the years so for a little while, I got interested in all three teams. I simply recorded their overall record, (regular season + post season, no exhibition games) and then added them up.
1960 Bills 5-8-1 Giants 6-4-2 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 18-19-3
1961 Bills 6-8-0 Giants 10-4-1 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 23-19-1
1962 Bills 7-6-1 Giants 12-3-0 Jets 5-9-0 Total: 24-18-1
1963 Bills 7-7-1 Giants 11-4-0 Jets 5-8-1 Total: 23-19-1
1964 Bills 13-2-0 Giants 2-10-2 Jets 5-8-1 Total: 20-20-3
1965 Bills 10-3-1 Giants 7-7-0 Jets 5-8-1 Total: 22-18-2
1966 Bills 9-5-1 Giants 1-12-1 Jets 6-6-2 Total: 16-23-4
1967 Bills 4-10-0 Giants 7-7-0 Jets 8-5-1 Total: 19-22-1
1968 Bills 1-12-1 Giants 7-7-0 Jets 13-3-0 Total: 21-22-1
1969 Bills 4-10-0 Giants 6-8-0 Jets 10-5-0 Total: 20-23-0
1970 Bills 3-10-1 Giants 9-5-0 Jets 4-10-0 Total: 16-25-1
1971 Bills 1-13-0 Giants 4-10-0 Jets 6-8-0 Total: 11-21-0
1972 Bills 4-9-1 Giants 8-6-0 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 19-22-1
1973 Bills 9-5-0 Giants 2-11-1 Jets 4-10-0 Total: 15-26-1
1974 Bills 9-6-0 Giants 2-12-0 Jets 7-7-0 Total: 18-25-0
1975 Bills 8-6-0 Giants 5-9-0 Jets 3-11-0 Total: 16-26-0
1976 Bills 2-12-0 Giants 3-11-0 Jets 3-11-0 Total: 8-34-0
1977 Bills 3-11-0 Giants 5-9-0 Jets 3-11-0 Total: 11-31-0
1978 Bills 5-11-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 19-29-0
1979 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 21-27-0
1980 Bills 11-6-0 Giants 4-12-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 19-30-0
1981 Bills 11-7-0 Giants 10-8-0 Jets 10-6-1 Total: 31-21-1
1982 Bills 4-5-0 Giants 4-5-0 Jets 8-4-0 Total: 16-14-0
1983 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 3-12-1 Jets 7-9-0 Total: 18-29-1
1984 Bills 2-14-0 Giants 10-8-0 Jets 7-9-0 Total: 19-31-0
1985 Bills 2-14-0 Giants 11-7-0 Jets 11-6-0 Total: 24-27-0
1986 Bills 4-12-0 Giants 17-2-0 Jets 11-7-0 Total: 32-21-0
1987 Bills 7-8-0 Giants 6-9-0 Jets 6-9-0 Total: 19-26-0
1988 Bills 13-5-0 Giants 10-6-0 Jets 8-7-1 Total: 31-18-1
1989 Bills 9-8-0 Giants 12-5-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 25-30-0
1990 Bills 15-4-0 Giants 16-3-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 37-17-0
1991 Bills 15-4-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 8-9-0 Total: 31-21-0
1992 Bills 14-6-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 29-28-0
1993 Bills 14-6-0 Giants 12-6-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 34-20-0
1994 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 9-7-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 22-26-0
1995 Bills 11-7-0 Giants 5-11-0 Jets 3-13-0 Total: 19-31-0
1996 Bills 10-7-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 1-15-0 Total: 17-27-0
1997 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 10-6-1 Jets 9-7-0 Total: 25-23-1
1998 Bills 10-7-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 13-4-0 Total: 31-19-0
1999 Bills 11-6-0 Giants 7-9-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 26-24-0
2000 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 14-5-0 Jets 9-7-0 Total: 31-20-0
2001 Bills 3-13-0 Giants 7-9-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 20-29-0
2002 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 10-7-0 Jets 9-8-0 Total: 27-23-0
2003 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 4-12-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 16-32-0
2004 Bills 9-7-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 25-24-0
2005 Bills 5-11-0 Giants 11-6-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 20-29-0
2006 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 25-24-0
2007 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 13-6-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 24-27-0
2008 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 12-5-0 Jets 9-7-0 Total: 28-21-0
2009 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 8-8-0 Jets 11-8-0 Total: 25-26-0
2010 Bills 4-12-0 Giants 10-6-0 Jets 13-6-0 Total: 27-24-0
2011 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 13-7-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 27-25-0
2012 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 9-7-0 Jets 6-10-0 Total: 21-27-0
2013 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 7-9-0 Jets 8-8-0 Total: 21-27-0
2014 Bills 9-7-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 19-29-0
2015 Bills 8-8-0 Giants 6-10-0 Jets 10-7-0 Total: 24-25-0
2016 Bills 7-9-0 Giants 11-6-0 Jets 5-11-0 Total: 23-26-0
2017 Bills 9-8-0 Giants 3-13-0 Jets 5-11-0 Total: 17-32-0
2018 Bills 6-10-0 Giants 5-11-0 Jets 4-12-0 Total: 15-33-0
Totals 428-494-8 456-466-9 412-504-8 1,296-1,464-25
The Bills have had 22 winning seasons, 32 losing seasons and 5 even seasons. They have played in the post season 18 times. They’ve won or shared their division title 8 times and won 2 AFL and 4 AFC championships. They have had the best record in the state 21 times.
The Giants have had 25 winning seasons, 25 losing seasons and 9 even seasons. They have played in the post season 20 times. They’ve won or shared their division title 11 times and won 5 NFC championships and 4 Super Bowls. They have had the best record in the state 22 times.
The Jets have had 19 winning seasons, 29 losing seasons and 11 even seasons. They have played in the post season 18 times. They’ve won or shared their division title 3 times and won 1 AFL championship and 1 Super Bowl. They have had the best record in the state 19 times.
Combined, the three teams have had 22 winning seasons, 36 losing season and 1 even season. They have played in the post season a combined 56 times. They have won or shared division titles 22 times. and won 2 AFL, 10 conference championships and 5 Super Bowls.
I think everyone can guess the best combined year. The worst was 1976: 8-34-0. I can still smell that year. Those crummy teams were on TV all the time!
There was one year when all three teams were in the playoffs: 1981. There have been 14 years when none of them were, 29 years when one of them was and 10 years when two of them were in. New York teams have met in the playoffs twice: The Bills beat the Jets 27-21 in the 1981 AFC Wildcard game and the Giants beat the Bills 20-18 in Super Bowl 25.
Pro Bowlers and AFL All-Stars:
Bills
QB- Drew Bledsoe, Doug Flutie, Jim Kelly, Jack Kemp, Tyrod Taylor
RB- Bobby Burnett, Greg Bell, Wray Carlton, Larry Centers, Joe Cribbs, Sam Gash, Cookie Gilchrist, Travis Henry, Marshaun Lynch, LaSean McCoy, O. J. Simpson, C. J. Spiller, Thurman Thomas
WR- Marlin Briscoe, Jerry Butler, Elbert Dubenion, J. D. Hill, Frank Lewis, James Lofton, Bill Miller, Eric Moulds, Andre Reed, Steve Tasker
TE- Ernie Warlick
OL- Howard Ballard, Stew Barber, Ruben Brown, Joe DeLaumielleure, Dave Foley, Dick Hudson, Kent Hull, Richie Incognito, Dan McGrew, Harold Olsen, Jason Peters, Ken Rice, Jim Ritcher, Mike Schneck, Tom Sestak, Billy Shaw, Wil Wolford, Eric Wood
DL- Sam Adams, Marcell Dareus, Tom Day, Jim Dunaway, Ron McDole, Chuck McMurtry, Aaron Schobel, Fred Smerlas, Bruce Smith, LaVerne Torczon, Ted Washington, Ben Williams, Kyle Williams, Mario Williams
LB- Lorenzo Alexander, Cornelius Bennett, Zach Brown, Shane Conlan, Sam Cowart, Ralph Felton, Harry Jacobs, Archie Matsos, Marve Matuszak, Bryce Paup, Takeo Spikes, Darryl Talley, John Tracey
DB- Bill Atkins, Butch Byrd, Jairus Byrd, Hagood Clarke, Nate Clements, Booker Edgerson, Stephone Gilmore, Micah Hyde, Robert James, Henry Jones, Richie McCabe, Terrence McGee, Nate Odoms, George Saimes, Jim Wagstaff
K/P- Bill Atkins, Pete Gogolak, Paul Maguire, Brian Moorman, Scott Norwood
KR- Steve Tasker
Giants
QB- Eli Manning, Phil Simms, Norm Snead, Fran Tarkington, Y.A.Tittle
RB-Tiki Barber, Saquon Barkley, Ernie Coy, Tucker Frederickson, Rodney Hampton, Ron Johnson, Joe Morris, Alex Webster
WR- Odell Beckham, Victor Cruz, Frank Gifford, Homer Jones, Jeremey Shockey, Del Shofner, Steve Smith, David Tyree
TE- Mark Bavaro, Jeremey Shockey, Aaron Thomas
OL- Roosevelt Brown, Darrell Dess, Dave Diehl, Jumbo Elliott, Greg Larson, Bart Oates. Sean O’Hara, Williams Roberts, Chris Snee, Ron Stone, Jack Stroud, Ray Wietecha
DL- Jack Gregory, Roosevelt Grier, Erik Howard, Jim Katcavage, John LoVetere, Leonard Marshall, Json Pierre-Paul, Andy Robustelli, Michael Strahan, Justin Tuck, Osi Umenyiora
LB- Jesse Armstead, Carl Banks, Harry Carson, Landon Collins, Zak DeOssie, Sam Huff, Pepper Johnson, Antonio Pierce, Lawrence Taylor, Brad Van Pelt
DB- Erich Barnes, Landon Collins, Tony Greene, Mark Haynes, Jamoris Jenkins, Terry Kinard, Spider Lockhardt, Dick Lynch, Jimmy Patton, Dominic Rodgers-Cromartie, Antrel Rolle, Reyna Thompson, Willie Williams
K/P- Josh Brown, John Carney, Jeff Feagles, Ali Haji-Shiekh, Dave Jennings, Sean Landeta, Aldrick Rojas
KR- Spider Lockhardt, Dave Meggett
Jets
QB- Al Dorow, Boomer Esiason, Brett Favre, Joe Namath, Ken O’Brien, Vinnie Testaverde, Tom Tupa
RB- Richie Anderson, Emerson Boozer, Dick Christy, Chris Ivory, Thomas Jones, Curtis Martin, Bill Mathis, Freeman McNeil, John Riggins, Matt Snell, Leon Washington
WR- Jerome Barkum, Keyshawn Johnson, Brandon Marshall, Don Maynard, Rob Moore, Art Powell, George Sauer, Al Toon, Bake Turner, Wesley Walker
TE- Rich Caster, Mickey Shuler
OL- Sam DeLuca, Alan Faneca, D’Brickashaw Ferguson, Dan Ficca, Joe Fields, Dave Herman, Winston Hill, Mike Hudock, Nick Mangold, Kevin Mawae, Bob Mischak, Brandon Moore, Sherman Plunkett, Marvin Powell, John Schmitt
DL- John Abraham, Verlon Biggs, John Elliott, Shaun Ellis, Mark Gastineau, Dick Guesman, Kris Jenkins, Joe Klecko, Gerry Philbin, Sheldon Richardson, Muhammed Wilkerson, Leonard Williams, Sid Youngelman
LB- Al Atkinson, Larry Grantham, Mo Lewis, Lance Mehl, Mike Stratton, Jonathan Vilma
DB- Jamal Adams, Antonio Cromartie, Dick Felt, Aaron Glenn, LaRon Landry, Ty Law, Eric McMillan, Justin Miller, Dainard Paulson, Darrell Revis, Johnny Sample, Willie West
K/P- Dick Guesman, Curley Johnson, Jason Myers, Andre Roberts, Tom Tupa, Jim Turner
KR- Aaron Glenn
I’ll leave it to the true Bills, Giants and Jets fans to come up with their all-time teams, (Giants since 1960), and describe how a round-robin between them would have gone.
