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Message: [QUOTE="HRE Otto IV, post: 3686835, member: 5685"] If you look at our PPG rankings there certainly was a style shift. Starting post GMac (cuz I don't feel like going back further): 2007 51st 2008 21st 2009 9th 2010 7th 2011 59th 2012 40th 2013 98th 2014 259th 2015 168th 2016 251st 2017 106th 2018 317th 2019 257th 2020 94th Hence my point that things started to change in 2013. Prior to that our worst was 59th. We haven't played "SU BBall" since 2012. What we have had since has been hard to watch. [/QUOTE]