The talent level on Syracuse teams

[SWC75]

(This is the second of a series of four posts based on studies I've done using the excellent Orangehoops website: Orangehoops | Syracuse University Orange Basketball )

I also decided to rate each team based on the total net points the players on them had in their careers. Obviously, younger players may have had a limited contribution to that year’s team but this could still be a measure of the overall talent on the team. Also, I realize that some players transferred out and played well for other schools. I added in their NP at other four-year schools to better estimate their talent level. One thing I could not account for is players leaving early for the pros, (which has a big impact on our national championship team), so this is an indicator, not a precise measurement of the overall talent on the roster. This uses recruited players only – no walk-ons. Players that were in school but not available to play because they were injured the whole year, red-shirting or sitting out after a transfer under the old rule are also not included.

1986-87 12,566NP
1988-89 12,161NP
1989-90 11,949NP
1987-88 11,885NP
1977-78 11,336NP
1978-79 11,289NP
1979-80 11,050NP
2009-10 10,694NP
1985-86 10,639NP
1997-98 10,238NP
1999-00 10,224NP
1992-93 10,207NP
2003-04 10,187NP
2004-05 9,876NP
2011-12 9,743NP
1984-85 9,656NP
1998-99 9,628NP
2010-11 9,591NP
1980-81 9,551NP
1982-83 9,468NP
2008-09 9,445NP
1976-77 9,331NP
1991-92 9,159NP
2013-14 9,152NP
2001-02 9,079NP
1994-95 9,070NP
2005-06 8,875NP
2007-08 8,764NP
1993-94 8,459NP
1995-96 8,393NP
2002-03 8,368NP
1996-97 8,305NP
2012-13 7,993NP
1983-84 7,918NP
1990-91 7,858NP
2016-17 7,277NP
2000-01 7,131NP
2018-19 6,900NP
2006-07 6,899NP
1981-82 6,755NP
2014-15 6,112NP
2017-18 5,900NP
2015-16 5,717NP
2019-20 4,750NP
2020-21 4,512NP

The breakdown:

1976-77 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Dale Schackleford 1,680 + Marty Byrnes 1,132 + Ross Kindell 629 + Jim Williams 567 + Hal Cohen 515 + Larry Kelley 317 + Kevin James 306 + + Bill Drew 188 + Cliff Warwell 158 + Bob Parker 51 + Reggie Powell 46 = 9,331NP*
1977-78 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Dale Schackleford 1,680 + Marty Byrnes 1,132 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Marty Headd 825 + Ross Kindell 629 + Hal Cohen 515 + Mark Cubit 277 + Chris Jerebko 235 + Bill Drew 188 = 11,336NP*
1978-79 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Dale Schackleford 1,680 + Marty Byrnes 1,132 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Marty Headd 825 + Hal Cohen 515 + Ron Payton 489 + Mark Cubit 277 + Chris Jerebko 235 + Rick Harmon 144 + Ed Gooding 137 = 11,289NP*
1979-80 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Eric Santifer 1,587 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Tony Bruin 877 + Marty Headd 825 + Mike Sheehey 667 + Hal Cohen 515 + Ron Payton 489 + Chris Jerebko 235 = 11,050NP*
1980-81 Eric Santifer 1,587 + Leo Rautins 1,331 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Tony Bruin 877 + Marty Headd 825 + Sean Kerins 711 + Mike Sheehey 667 + Gene Waldron 664 + Ron Payton 489 + Chris Jerebko 235 + Larry O’Neill 52 = 9,551NP
1981-82 Eric Santifer 1,587 + Leo Rautins 1,331 + Tony Bruin 877 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Sean Kerins 711 + Gene Waldron 664 + Ron Payton 489 + Chris Lewis 250 + Sonny Spera 121 + Peter Wynne -3 = 6,755NP
1982-83 Rafael Addison 1,706 + Eric Santifer 1,587 + Leo Rautins 1,331 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Tony Bruin 877 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Sean Kerins 711 + Gene Waldron 664 + Chris Lewis 250 + John Karpis 230 + Sonny Spera 121 = 9,468NP
1983-84 Rafael Addison 1,706 + Pearl Washington 1,339 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Greg Monroe 881 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Gene Waldron 664 + Howie Triche 610 + George Papadakos 376 + John Karpis 230 + Sonny Spera 121 = 7,918NP
1984-85 Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Rafael Addison 1,706 + Pearl Washington 1,339 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Greg Monroe 881 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Howie Triche 610 + Michael Brown 393 + George Papadakos 376 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Sonny Spera 121 = 9,656NP
1985-86 Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Rafael Addison 1,706 + Pearl Washington 1,339 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Greg Monroe 881 + Howie Triche 610 + Michael Brown 393 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Rodney Walker 131 = 10,639NP
1986-87 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + Keith Hughes 1,157 + Matt Roe 906 + Greg Monroe 881 + Howie Triche 610 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Rodney Walker 131 + Erik Rogers 54 = 12,566NP
1987-88 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + Keith Hughes 1,157 + Earl Duncan 941 + Matt Roe 906 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Erik Rogers 54 + = 11,885NP
1988-89 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Billy Owens 2,012 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Richard Manning 972 + Matt Roe 906 + Herman Harried 226 + Dave Siock 177 + Tony Scott 108 + Erik Rogers 54 = 12,161NP
1989-90 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Billy Owens 2,012 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + LeRon Ellis 1,131 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Richard Manning 972 + Conrad McRae 892 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + Dave Siock 177 + Tony Scott 108 + Erik Rogers 54 = 11,949NP
1990-91 Billy Owens 2,012 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + LeRon Ellis 1,131 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Conrad McRae 892 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Dave Siock 177 = 7,858NP
1991-92 Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Glenn Sekunda 937 + Conrad McRae 892 + Luke Jackson 623 + Anthony Harris 600 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Dave Siock 177= 9,159 NP
1992-93 John Wallace 2,188 + Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + Glenn Sekunda 937 + Conrad McRae 892 + Luke Jackson 623 + Lazarus Sims 578 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Dave Siock 177= 10,207NP
(Otis Hill redshirted this year thus effectively joining the next year’s class. Jim Hayes came as a walk -on and got a scholarship as a sophomore: I’m counting him as a walk-on because he wasn’t recruited to come here.)
1993-94 John Wallace 2,188 + Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Lazarus Sims 578 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Chuckie Gelatt 28 = 8,459NP
1994-95 John Wallace 2,188 + Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Bobby Lazor 1,141 + Luke Jackson 623 + Marius Janulis 617 + Lazarus Sims 578 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Michael Lloyd 318 = 9,070NP
1995-96 John Wallace 2,188 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Bobby Lazor 1,141 + Marius Janulis 617 + Lazarus Sims 578 + Jason Cipolla 500 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + David Patrick 11 = 8,393NP
1996-97 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Ramel Lloyd 814 + Marius Janulis 617 + LeSean Howard 557 + Jason Cipolla 500 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + Winfred Walton 0 = 8,305NP
1997-98 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Ryan Blackwell 1,393 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Damone Brown 1,239 + Sam Spann 925 + Alan Griffin 700 + Marius Janulis 617 + LeSean Howard 557 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + Eric Williams 145 + Malik Campbell 49 = 10,238NP (I had through that Malik Campbell was recruited for football and walked on in basketball but per Orangehoops, it’s the other way around.)
1998-99 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Ryan Blackwell 1,393 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Damone Brown 1,239 + Tony Bland 1,020 + Alan Griffin 700 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + Billy Celuck 198 + Eric Williams 145 + Malik Campbell 49 = 9,628NP
1999-2000 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Ryan Blackwell 1,393 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Damone Brown 1,239 + Kueth Duany 852 + Tony Bland 1,020 + DeShaun Williams 892 + Alan Griffin 700 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Billy Celuck 198 = 10,224NP
2000-01 Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Damone Brown 1,239 + DeShaun Williams 892 + Kueth Duany 852 + James Thues 779 + Alan Griffin 700 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Ethan Cole 263 + Billy Celuck 198 + Greg Davis 63 = 7,131NP
2001-02 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Josh Pace 1,126 + DeShaun Williams 892 + Kueth Duany 852 + Craig Forth 844 + James Thues 779 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Ethan Cole 263 + Billy Celuck 198 + Mark Konecny -2 = 9,079NP
2002-03 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Josh Pace 1,126 + Kueth Duany 852 + Craig Forth 844 + Carmelo Anthony 730 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Billy Edelin 512 + Matt Gorman 153 = 8,368NP
2003-04 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Josh Pace 1,126 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Craig Forth 844 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Billy Edelin 512 + Louie McCroskey 465 + Matt Gorman 153 = 10,187NP
2004-05 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Josh Pace 1,126 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Craig Forth 844 + Billy Edelin 512 + Louie McCroskey 465 + Josh Wright 379 + Dayshawn Weight 16 = 9,876NP
2005-06 Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Andy Rautins 951 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Louie McCroskey 465 + Josh Wright 379 + Matt Gorman 153 = 8,875NP
2006-07 Paul Harris 1,428 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Andy Rautins 951 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Josh Wright 379 + Matt Gorman 153 + Mike Jones 8 + Devin Brennan-McBride 1 = 6,899NP
2007-08 Rick Jackson 1,738 + Paul Harris 1,428 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + Jonny Flynn 1,073 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Donte Greene 510 + Kristof Ongenaet 364 + Sean Williams 3 = 8,764NP
2008-09 Rick Jackson 1,738 + Paul Harris 1,428 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Jonny Flynn 1,073 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Andy Rautins 951 + Kristof Ongenaet 364 + Mookie Jones 164 + Sean Williams 3 = 9,445NP
2009-10 Rick Jackson 1,738 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Wes Johnson 1,290 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + Brandon Triche 1,181 + Andy Rautins 951 + James Southerland 825 + DaShonte Riley 590 + Mookie Jones 164 = 10,694NP
2010-11 Rick Jackson 1,738 + CJ Fair 1,639 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + James Southerland 825 + Dion Waiters 558 + Baye Moussa Keita 552 + Fab Melo 311 + Mookie Jones 164 = 9,591NP
2011-12 CJ Fair 1,639 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Brandon Triche 1,181 + James Southerland 825 + Michael Carter-Williams 672 + Dion Waiters 558 + Fab Melo 311 + Mookie Jones 164 = 9,743NP
2012-13 CJ Fair 1,639 + Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Brandon Triche 1,181 + Trevor Cooney 969 + James Southerland 825 + Michael Carter-Williams 672 + Jerami Grant 556 + Baye Moussa Keita 552 + DaJuan Coleman 381 = 7,993NP
2013-14 CJ Fair 1,639 + Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Michael Gbinije 996 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Trevor Cooney 969 + BJ Johnson 962 + Jerami Grant 556 + Baye Moussa Keita 552 + Ron Patterson 453 + Tyler Ennis 445 + DaJuan Coleman 381 = 9,152NP
2014-15 Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Michael Gbinije 996 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Trevor Cooney 969 + BJ Johnson 962 + Ron Patterson 453 + Chris McCullough 171 + Kaleb Joseph 342 + Chinoso Obokoh 24 = 6,112NP
2015-16 Tyler Lydon 1,017 + Michael Gbinije 996 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Trevor Cooney 969 + Franklin Howard 697 + DaJuan Coleman 381 + Kaleb Joseph 342 + Malachi Richardson 310 + Chinoso Obokoh 24 = 5,717NP
2016-17 John Gillon 1,111 + Tyus Battle 1,056 + Tyler Lydon 1,017 + Andrew White 998 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Paschal Chukwu 711 + Franklin Howard 697 + DaJuan Coleman 381 + Taurean Thompson 325 = 7,277NP
2017-18 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Tyus Battle 1,056 + Oshae Brissett 871 + Paschal Chukwu 711 + Franklin Howard 697 + Geno Thorpe 525 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Matthew Moyer 392 + Howard Washington 67 = 5,900NP (so far)
2018-19 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Tyus Battle 1,056 + Elijah Hughes 975 + Oshae Brissett 871 + Paschal Chukwu 711 + Franklin Howard 697 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Jalen Carey 107 + Robert Braswell 103 + = 6,900NP (so far)
2019-20 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Elijah Hughes 975 + Buddy Boeheim 732 + Joe Girard 535 + Quincy Guerrier 510 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Jalen Carey 107 + Robert Braswell 103 + Jesse Edwards 101 + Howard Washington 67 + Brycen Goodine 39 = 4,750NP (so far)
2020-21 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Buddy Boeheim 732 + Alan Griffin 691 + Joe Girard 535 + Quincy Guerrier 510 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Kadary Richmond 222 + Robert Braswell 103 + Jesse Edwards 101 + Woody Newton 34 + Frank Anselem +5 + Chaz Owens 0 +John Bol Ajak -2 = 4,512NP (so far)

 

[OrangeFoo]

Wow... that's damning. We are basically at the bottom of our historical.

 

[Forza Azzurri]

For guys who go pro, a reasonable assumption would be that they carry over their production for the remainder of their college careers.

So, Carmelo would have an extra 2190 points which would put the 02-03 at 10,558 points which would rank them 10th on the all-time list.

I apologize. I cannot remember your exact definition of net points but I would venture that, perhaps, the teams of the late 70s rank so high due to the fact that their schedules were easier than what we've faced since between the Big East and the ACC?

 

[kcsu]

(This is the second of a series of four posts based on studies I've done using the excellent Orangehoops website: Orangehoops | Syracuse University Orange Basketball )

I also decided to rate each team based on the total net points the players on them had in their careers. Obviously, younger players may have had a limited contribution to that year’s team but this could still be a measure of the overall talent on the team. Also, I realize that some players transferred out and played well for other schools. I added in their NP at other four-year schools to better estimate their talent level. One thing I could not account for is players leaving early for the pros, (which has a big impact on our national championship team), so this is an indicator, not a precise measurement of the overall talent on the roster. This uses recruited players only – no walk-ons. Players that were in school but not available to play because they were injured the whole year, red-shirting or sitting out after a transfer under the old rule are also not included.

1986-87 12,566NP
1988-89 12,161NP
1989-90 11,949NP
1987-88 11,885NP
1977-78 11,336NP
1978-79 11,289NP
1979-80 11,050NP
2009-10 10,694NP
1985-86 10,639NP
1997-98 10,238NP
1999-00 10,224NP
1992-93 10,207NP
2003-04 10,187NP
2004-05 9,876NP
2011-12 9,743NP
1984-85 9,656NP
1998-99 9,628NP
2010-11 9,591NP
1980-81 9,551NP
1982-83 9,468NP
2008-09 9,445NP
1976-77 9,331NP
1991-92 9,159NP
2013-14 9,152NP
2001-02 9,079NP
1994-95 9,070NP
2005-06 8,875NP
2007-08 8,764NP
1993-94 8,459NP
1995-96 8,393NP
2002-03 8,368NP
1996-97 8,305NP
2012-13 7,993NP
1983-84 7,918NP
1990-91 7,858NP
2016-17 7,277NP
2000-01 7,131NP
2018-19 6,900NP
2006-07 6,899NP
1981-82 6,755NP
2014-15 6,112NP
2017-18 5,900NP
2015-16 5,717NP
2019-20 4,750NP
2020-21 4,512NP

The breakdown:

1976-77 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Dale Schackleford 1,680 + Marty Byrnes 1,132 + Ross Kindell 629 + Jim Williams 567 + Hal Cohen 515 + Larry Kelley 317 + Kevin James 306 + + Bill Drew 188 + Cliff Warwell 158 + Bob Parker 51 + Reggie Powell 46 = 9,331NP*
1977-78 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Dale Schackleford 1,680 + Marty Byrnes 1,132 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Marty Headd 825 + Ross Kindell 629 + Hal Cohen 515 + Mark Cubit 277 + Chris Jerebko 235 + Bill Drew 188 = 11,336NP*
1978-79 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Dale Schackleford 1,680 + Marty Byrnes 1,132 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Marty Headd 825 + Hal Cohen 515 + Ron Payton 489 + Mark Cubit 277 + Chris Jerebko 235 + Rick Harmon 144 + Ed Gooding 137 = 11,289NP*
1979-80 Roosevelt Bouie 1,978 + Louis Orr 1,764 + Eric Santifer 1,587 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Tony Bruin 877 + Marty Headd 825 + Mike Sheehey 667 + Hal Cohen 515 + Ron Payton 489 + Chris Jerebko 235 = 11,050NP*
1980-81 Eric Santifer 1,587 + Leo Rautins 1,331 + Danny Schayes 1,093 + Eddie Moss 1,020 + Tony Bruin 877 + Marty Headd 825 + Sean Kerins 711 + Mike Sheehey 667 + Gene Waldron 664 + Ron Payton 489 + Chris Jerebko 235 + Larry O’Neill 52 = 9,551NP
1981-82 Eric Santifer 1,587 + Leo Rautins 1,331 + Tony Bruin 877 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Sean Kerins 711 + Gene Waldron 664 + Ron Payton 489 + Chris Lewis 250 + Sonny Spera 121 + Peter Wynne -3 = 6,755NP
1982-83 Rafael Addison 1,706 + Eric Santifer 1,587 + Leo Rautins 1,331 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Tony Bruin 877 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Sean Kerins 711 + Gene Waldron 664 + Chris Lewis 250 + John Karpis 230 + Sonny Spera 121 = 9,468NP
1983-84 Rafael Addison 1,706 + Pearl Washington 1,339 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Greg Monroe 881 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Gene Waldron 664 + Howie Triche 610 + George Papadakos 376 + John Karpis 230 + Sonny Spera 121 = 7,918NP
1984-85 Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Rafael Addison 1,706 + Pearl Washington 1,339 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Greg Monroe 881 + Andre Hawkins 728 + Howie Triche 610 + Michael Brown 393 + George Papadakos 376 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Sonny Spera 121 = 9,656NP
1985-86 Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Rafael Addison 1,706 + Pearl Washington 1,339 + Wendell Alexis 1,263 + Greg Monroe 881 + Howie Triche 610 + Michael Brown 393 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Rodney Walker 131 = 10,639NP
1986-87 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + Keith Hughes 1,157 + Matt Roe 906 + Greg Monroe 881 + Howie Triche 610 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Rodney Walker 131 + Erik Rogers 54 = 12,566NP
1987-88 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Rony Seikaly 1,764 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + Keith Hughes 1,157 + Earl Duncan 941 + Matt Roe 906 + Derek Brower 249 + Herman Harried 226 + Erik Rogers 54 + = 11,885NP
1988-89 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Sherman Douglas 2,077 + Billy Owens 2,012 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Richard Manning 972 + Matt Roe 906 + Herman Harried 226 + Dave Siock 177 + Tony Scott 108 + Erik Rogers 54 = 12,161NP
1989-90 Derrick Coleman 2,903 + Billy Owens 2,012 + Stevie Thompson 1,608 + LeRon Ellis 1,131 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Richard Manning 972 + Conrad McRae 892 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + Dave Siock 177 + Tony Scott 108 + Erik Rogers 54 = 11,949NP
1990-91 Billy Owens 2,012 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + LeRon Ellis 1,131 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Conrad McRae 892 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Dave Siock 177 = 7,858NP
1991-92 Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + Dave Johnson 1,118 + Glenn Sekunda 937 + Conrad McRae 892 + Luke Jackson 623 + Anthony Harris 600 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Dave Siock 177= 9,159 NP
1992-93 John Wallace 2,188 + Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + Glenn Sekunda 937 + Conrad McRae 892 + Luke Jackson 623 + Lazarus Sims 578 + Michael Edwards 495 + Mike Hopkins 479 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Dave Siock 177= 10,207NP
(Otis Hill redshirted this year thus effectively joining the next year’s class. Jim Hayes came as a walk -on and got a scholarship as a sophomore: I’m counting him as a walk-on because he wasn’t recruited to come here.)
1993-94 John Wallace 2,188 + Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Adrian Autry 1,214 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Lazarus Sims 578 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Scott McCorkle 340 + Chuckie Gelatt 28 = 8,459NP
1994-95 John Wallace 2,188 + Lawrence Moten 1,858 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Bobby Lazor 1,141 + Luke Jackson 623 + Marius Janulis 617 + Lazarus Sims 578 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Michael Lloyd 318 = 9,070NP
1995-96 John Wallace 2,188 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Bobby Lazor 1,141 + Marius Janulis 617 + Lazarus Sims 578 + Jason Cipolla 500 + JB Reafsnyder 426 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + David Patrick 11 = 8,393NP
1996-97 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Otis Hill 1,204 + Ramel Lloyd 814 + Marius Janulis 617 + LeSean Howard 557 + Jason Cipolla 500 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + Winfred Walton 0 = 8,305NP
1997-98 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Ryan Blackwell 1,393 + Todd Burgan 1,321 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Damone Brown 1,239 + Sam Spann 925 + Alan Griffin 700 + Marius Janulis 617 + LeSean Howard 557 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + Eric Williams 145 + Malik Campbell 49 = 10,238NP (I had through that Malik Campbell was recruited for football and walked on in basketball but per Orangehoops, it’s the other way around.)
1998-99 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Ryan Blackwell 1,393 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Damone Brown 1,239 + Tony Bland 1,020 + Alan Griffin 700 + Elvir Ovcina 407 + Billy Celuck 198 + Eric Williams 145 + Malik Campbell 49 = 9,628NP
1999-2000 Etan Thomas 1,636 + Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Ryan Blackwell 1,393 + Jason Hart 1,249 + Damone Brown 1,239 + Kueth Duany 852 + Tony Bland 1,020 + DeShaun Williams 892 + Alan Griffin 700 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Billy Celuck 198 = 10,224NP
2000-01 Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Damone Brown 1,239 + DeShaun Williams 892 + Kueth Duany 852 + James Thues 779 + Alan Griffin 700 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Ethan Cole 263 + Billy Celuck 198 + Greg Davis 63 = 7,131NP
2001-02 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Preston Shumpert 1,592 + Josh Pace 1,126 + DeShaun Williams 892 + Kueth Duany 852 + Craig Forth 844 + James Thues 779 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Ethan Cole 263 + Billy Celuck 198 + Mark Konecny -2 = 9,079NP
2002-03 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Josh Pace 1,126 + Kueth Duany 852 + Craig Forth 844 + Carmelo Anthony 730 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Billy Edelin 512 + Matt Gorman 153 = 8,368NP
2003-04 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Josh Pace 1,126 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Craig Forth 844 + Jeremy McNeil 553 + Billy Edelin 512 + Louie McCroskey 465 + Matt Gorman 153 = 10,187NP
2004-05 Hakim Warrick 1,982 + Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Josh Pace 1,126 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Craig Forth 844 + Billy Edelin 512 + Louie McCroskey 465 + Josh Wright 379 + Dayshawn Weight 16 = 9,876NP
2005-06 Gerry McNamara 1,616 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Andy Rautins 951 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Louie McCroskey 465 + Josh Wright 379 + Matt Gorman 153 = 8,875NP
2006-07 Paul Harris 1,428 + Demetris Nichols 1,064 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Terrence Roberts 974 + Andy Rautins 951 + Darryl Watkins 898 + Josh Wright 379 + Matt Gorman 153 + Mike Jones 8 + Devin Brennan-McBride 1 = 6,899NP
2007-08 Rick Jackson 1,738 + Paul Harris 1,428 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + Jonny Flynn 1,073 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Donte Greene 510 + Kristof Ongenaet 364 + Sean Williams 3 = 8,764NP
2008-09 Rick Jackson 1,738 + Paul Harris 1,428 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Jonny Flynn 1,073 + Eric Devendorf 1,043 + Andy Rautins 951 + Kristof Ongenaet 364 + Mookie Jones 164 + Sean Williams 3 = 9,445NP
2009-10 Rick Jackson 1,738 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Arinze Onuaku 1,332 + Wes Johnson 1,290 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + Brandon Triche 1,181 + Andy Rautins 951 + James Southerland 825 + DaShonte Riley 590 + Mookie Jones 164 = 10,694NP
2010-11 Rick Jackson 1,738 + CJ Fair 1,639 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + James Southerland 825 + Dion Waiters 558 + Baye Moussa Keita 552 + Fab Melo 311 + Mookie Jones 164 = 9,591NP
2011-12 CJ Fair 1,639 + Kris Joseph 1,350 + Scoop Jardine 1,273 + Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Brandon Triche 1,181 + James Southerland 825 + Michael Carter-Williams 672 + Dion Waiters 558 + Fab Melo 311 + Mookie Jones 164 = 9,743NP
2012-13 CJ Fair 1,639 + Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Brandon Triche 1,181 + Trevor Cooney 969 + James Southerland 825 + Michael Carter-Williams 672 + Jerami Grant 556 + Baye Moussa Keita 552 + DaJuan Coleman 381 = 7,993NP
2013-14 CJ Fair 1,639 + Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Michael Gbinije 996 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Trevor Cooney 969 + BJ Johnson 962 + Jerami Grant 556 + Baye Moussa Keita 552 + Ron Patterson 453 + Tyler Ennis 445 + DaJuan Coleman 381 = 9,152NP
2014-15 Rakeem Christmas 1,218 + Michael Gbinije 996 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Trevor Cooney 969 + BJ Johnson 962 + Ron Patterson 453 + Chris McCullough 171 + Kaleb Joseph 342 + Chinoso Obokoh 24 = 6,112NP
2015-16 Tyler Lydon 1,017 + Michael Gbinije 996 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Trevor Cooney 969 + Franklin Howard 697 + DaJuan Coleman 381 + Kaleb Joseph 342 + Malachi Richardson 310 + Chinoso Obokoh 24 = 5,717NP
2016-17 John Gillon 1,111 + Tyus Battle 1,056 + Tyler Lydon 1,017 + Andrew White 998 + Tyler Roberson 981 + Paschal Chukwu 711 + Franklin Howard 697 + DaJuan Coleman 381 + Taurean Thompson 325 = 7,277NP
2017-18 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Tyus Battle 1,056 + Oshae Brissett 871 + Paschal Chukwu 711 + Franklin Howard 697 + Geno Thorpe 525 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Matthew Moyer 392 + Howard Washington 67 = 5,900NP (so far)
2018-19 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Tyus Battle 1,056 + Elijah Hughes 975 + Oshae Brissett 871 + Paschal Chukwu 711 + Franklin Howard 697 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Jalen Carey 107 + Robert Braswell 103 + = 6,900NP (so far)
2019-20 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Elijah Hughes 975 + Buddy Boeheim 732 + Joe Girard 535 + Quincy Guerrier 510 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Jalen Carey 107 + Robert Braswell 103 + Jesse Edwards 101 + Howard Washington 67 + Brycen Goodine 39 = 4,750NP (so far)
2020-21 Marek Dolezaj 1,169 + Buddy Boeheim 732 + Alan Griffin 691 + Joe Girard 535 + Quincy Guerrier 510 + Bourama Sidibe 412 + Kadary Richmond 222 + Robert Braswell 103 + Jesse Edwards 101 + Woody Newton 34 + Frank Anselem +5 + Chaz Owens 0 +John Bol Ajak -2 = 4,512NP (so far)

You are simply amazing. Do you want to move to Ireland and run the data side of a company?
Thank you for all of the time you put into making this site better.

 

[Trueblue25]

These threads are so incredible always

 

[SWC75]

For guys who go pro, a reasonable assumption would be that they carry over their production for the remainder of their college careers.

So, Carmelo would have an extra 2190 points which would put the 02-03 at 10,558 points which would rank them 10th on the all-time list.

I apologize. I cannot remember your exact definition of net points but I would venture that, perhaps, the teams of the late 70s rank so high due to the fact that their schedules were easier than what we've faced since between the Big East and the ACC?

That's a good way of looking at it.

NP = points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks - missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls.

 

[SWC75]

Wow... that's damning. We are basically at the bottom of our historical.

Keep in mind that the last few years include careers that are not yet over.

 

[SWC75]

You are simply amazing. Do you want to move to Ireland and run the data side of a company?
Thank you for all of the time you put into making this site better.

Would that be any fun?