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Message: [QUOTE="Cowtown, post: 2150452, member: 2350"] Just saw this. In the first place, I don't know what the NCAA rule states, but in FIBA that's a still a "held ball" regardless. I don't like the rule, but that's what it is. What I can't tell by that pic is when in the sequence it was taken - as in, before or after the hand was on the line. I'm assuming it was before. So the "held ball" would have occurred prior to the hand touching the line, which is then completely incidental. There's always a certain latency between when the official says "Okay, I've got a held ball here" and blows the whistle, and when the players/coaches/fans hear it, look at the official for the signal, then back at the players who have usually moved some by then. [/QUOTE]