There is a real possibility. . .

[longtimefan]

that football becomes a second semester (spring) sport next season.

If so, our new and improved Dome will be a very busy place.

February rolls around--football on Saturday, lacrosse on Sunday, then Big Monday basketball the next evening.

It will be nice having an indoor facility.

 

[Sudano]

Football is so important financially to many P5 colleges and the balance sheets of academic side of things, They'll start playing first chance they can.
Summer sport next year?

 

[upperdeck]

It will be interesting to see if colleges get bigger into the testing game. Many of them have pretty good facilities to do these tests and it might be a good idea to get the equipment to do so.

 

[longtimefan]

It will be interesting to see if colleges get bigger into the testing game. Many of them have pretty good facilities to do these tests and it might be a good idea to get the equipment to do so.

As you enter the Dome, you get wanded and have your temperature checked.

 

[upperdeck]

I think by fall though they have testing thats faster and less obtrusive. mayve we can add that feature to the metal detectors like a Star Trek type thing.

 

[UpstateSM]

If something like that happens I hope they double the security because there’s going to be some angry drunks when they’re not let in. Lots of other aspects to figure out, too. Do you get a refund if you don’t get into the game?

 

[OrangeTarheel]

I think by fall though they have testing thats faster and less obtrusive. mayve we can add that feature to the metal detectors like a Star Trek type thing.

Testing would have to become substantially more reliable. Little hard data out there but loads of anecdotal evidence that current testing options can have up to 25-30% false negative.

 

[elimunelson]

Football is so important financially to many P5 colleges and the balance sheets of academic side of things, They'll start playing first chance they can.
Summer sport next year?

if a schools balance sheet is dependent on one sport that school has to reevaluate things. Like an over levered business maybe some of these schools should go under.

 

[corpjet]

that football becomes a second semester (spring) sport next season.

If so, our new and improved Dome will be a very busy place.

February rolls around--football on Saturday, lacrosse on Sunday, then Big Monday basketball the next evening.

It will be nice having an indoor facility.

Now that will make for a fun weekend of Syracuse sports...make it happen (only if we have to push football to the spring)

 

[sutomcat]

Testing would have to become substantially more reliable. Little hard data out there but loads of anecdotal evidence that current testing options can have up to 25-30% false negative.

An antibody test should be very reliable. I believe these are coming though making them available to 330 million people is going to be a big challenge.

I doubt there would be temp checks for games played in February and beyond. That doesn't seem very practical to do, especially outside in the middle of winter. It is becoming clear there are a lot more people who have it that are asymptomatic and would be let in anyway. You would be inconveniencing many for what would amount to a minor benefit.

Let's assume for the moment that it is formally proven that once you get the virus, you can't get it again, at least for a year or two. There may or may not be a vaccine by then. Even if there is, it is likely not everyone will have been immunized.

Given all this, how could athletic events be staged with fans in a practical way? There is talk about people with immunity getting some kind of proof from the government that they are immune. That might be something that happens, especially if a vaccine is not generally available for a long time. That proof might be leveraged in these situations. It is a dicey subject giving special treatment to those with immunity but it might be something that is needed to keep the economy moving and provide enough support to allow people without immunity to stay safe.

If we do end up playing football in the late winter/early spring, I would expect Syracuse to play a lot of home games early in the season. It would not surprise me to see the dome hosting football games for other colleges on weird days and at weird times as well. Schools like UB, Cornell, Colgate, Ithaca and Albany might have no other alternative to getting their home games in early in the season.

This would be a time when being in a conference with a lot of schools based in the South helps a lot. I don't know what the B1G in particular is going to do.

 

[SU68]

I don't think that we will be going into the dome in any large numbers until a vaccine is developed. The university will not want to accept the liability of 30-40 thousand fans in close contact.

 

[upperdeck]

once the anti-body test becomes a thing, lots of issues change.. suddenly 20-40% of the population becomes short term Ok to do things. you come up with some picture ID that they carry and you get swiped in to things. this is gonna become a forever thing until vaccines but then the next big thing and it starts over.

one of the dozens of vaccines they figure out will be quicker to scale up and thats the hope.. maybe the one that works for longer term takes a yr but one that works for a month or 2 comes by fall.. have to be positive .

 

[GreekFreak]

Random anti-body testing began yesterday in the Capital District at two Price Chopper supermarkets that I am aware of. So that appears to be on track and moving.

 

[upperdeck]

The states plan for random testing, i wonder if that includes people who are not out and about too?

 

[SUOrange44]

An antibody test should be very reliable. I believe these are coming though making them available to 330 million people is going to be a big challenge.

I doubt there would be temp checks for games played in February and beyond. That doesn't seem very practical to do, especially outside in the middle of winter. It is becoming clear there are a lot more people who have it that are asymptomatic and would be let in anyway. You would be inconveniencing many for what would amount to a minor benefit.

Let's assume for the moment that it is formally proven that once you get the virus, you can't get it again, at least for a year or two. There may or may not be a vaccine by then. Even if there is, it is likely not everyone will have been immunized.

Given all this, how could athletic events be staged with fans in a practical way? There is talk about people with immunity getting some kind of proof from the government that they are immune. That might be something that happens, especially if a vaccine is not generally available for a long time. That proof might be leveraged in these situations. It is a dicey subject giving special treatment to those with immunity but it might be something that is needed to keep the economy moving and provide enough support to allow people without immunity to stay safe.

If we do end up playing football in the late winter/early spring, I would expect Syracuse to play a lot of home games early in the season. It would not surprise me to see the dome hosting football games for other colleges on weird days and at weird times as well. Schools like UB, Cornell, Colgate, Ithaca and Albany might have no other alternative to getting their home games in early in the season.

This would be a time when being in a conference with a lot of schools based in the South helps a lot. I don't know what the B1G in particular is going to do.

As far as temperature checks and other virus based “proofs” that may ultimately be required for mass gatherings, if I were SU, I would have folks performing those tests and proof checks stationed at the parking locations such as SkyTop, Manley, etc. to confirm eligibility to go into The Dome BEFORE getting on the busses and to minimize wait times for the normal security check at the gates.

Hopefully, that would reduce both wait and exposure times. Perhaps, each person who passes is given a band with a bar code to be scanned at the gate or just a visual check. Separate station for those who walked up or don’t park in a lot with designated testing.

So many problems though like if we still believe those who are asymptomatic can pass this, if antibody tests do no guarantee immunity or even if somebody who came in a group fails a test...what do you do with the other people in their group.

SUOrange44

 

[Newhouser]

How is NY executing the testing? Also what does it prove - if I have the anti-bodies it means I had the virus but it doesn't confirm that I can't get reinfected correct?

 

[sutomcat]

How is NY executing the testing? Also what does it prove - if I have the anti-bodies it means I had the virus but it doesn't confirm that I can't get reinfected correct?

The presence of anti bodies is conclusive proof that you have had (might still have) the virus. There are a lot of corona viruses out there and the challenge is to develop an antibody test that only shows as positive for the specific COVID-19 virus.

I don't know how NYS is pursuing testing. It sounds like they are trying to work with many labs. Some might be using different tests than others. There are a number of tests that have been developed.

From what I have read, it is strongly suspected than once you get infected, you can't get infected again for months or years. That is what generally happens with these types of viruses. The antibodies in your blood attack the virus if it is reintroduced and prevent it from re-establishing itself.

There are people in Asia who were said to have had COVID-19, recovered and got it again but I have read that the tests in China were wrong a lot (30% range) and it might well be that these individuals were not infected with COVID-19 the first time around. This question is one of the most important to answer before we can formulate a strategy to open up the country again.

 

[donniesyracuse]

As far as temperature checks and other virus based “proofs” that may ultimately be required for mass gatherings, if I were SU, I would have folks performing those tests and proof checks stationed at the parking locations such as SkyTop, Manley, etc. to confirm eligibility to go into The Dome BEFORE getting on the busses and to minimize wait times for the normal security check at the gates.

Hopefully, that would reduce both wait and exposure times. Perhaps, each person who passes is given a band with a bar code to be scanned at the gate or just a visual check. Separate station for those who walked up or don’t park in a lot with designated testing.

Are people who are denied admission given an immediate refund? What if they are season ticket holders? Do you test people before they pay to park?

 

[SUOrange44]

Are people who are denied admission given an immediate refund? What if they are season ticket holders? Do you test people before they pay to park?

Yeah. All great questions. Probably a number of options. One example is that Ticketmaster is circulating a survey asking whether you would prefer an immediate refund of ticket prices and fees OR a voucher worth 120 percent the cost to be used within 2 years.

of course there are a ton of variables like if you paid way more or less on the secondary market. That would seem to be something not taken into consideration...only face value and possibly depending on the broker/vendor.

SUOrange44

 

[Doc5120]

Are people who are denied admission given an immediate refund? What if they are season ticket holders? Do you test people before they pay to park?

And if you don't test at the gate, there are certainly going to be people getting past those testing stations.

I don't think a band with a barcode would work. What's to stop someone from giving their band to someone else? I personally would not, but would I as an 18-22 year old student, sadly, probably yes.

Hopefully testing will really ramp up, and there is some semblance of normalcy for a spring football season. I have trouble seeing this type of thing go on for an extended time period without many parts of the economy, and life in general crumbling.

 

[Shenexon]

China's Red yellow green cellphone app could be an option?

 

[upperdeck]

no bands.. you have to go to picture ID and some database. they already swipe most tickets so taking that next step is not huge,

 

[upperdeck]

the PGA bought a million test kids to go live with the tour.

SU goes to every other row and every 5 seats . 5-10K in the dome for a game.. no food/drink/bathrooms but free diapers.

 

[PAcuse]

the PGA bought a million test kids to go live with the tour.

SU goes to every other row and every 5 seats . 5-10K in the dome for a game.. no food/drink/bathrooms but free diapers.

How do you get 5-10k into the dome at a safe distance from each other?
It doesn't make sense to have people lining up next to each other and then spacing them out, to late at that point.
It's going to have to be and all or nothing when they go live or it will be a nightmare getting people in and out.

 

[upperdeck]

just like wegmans we all line up in an orderly fashion wearing masks and the 50% who are not at risk have a much better time