This cant be right

[upperdeck]

Virg had 4 guys play almost 35 min each last game and 1 guy play almost all the rest.. really only played 7.. no way..

only SU does that according to board experts.

GT had 40/39/38/37/26 and 2 played 20.. only played 7 guys.

what.,,,

 

[capeorange]

Virg had 4 guys play almost 35 min each last game and 1 guy play almost all the rest.. really only played 7.. no way..

only SU does that according to board experts.

GT had 40/39/38/37/26 and 2 played 20.. only played 7 guys.

what.,,,

No way! Those 2 coaches can't have that many sons...

 

[syrBossHogg]

Virginia is also ranked in the top 10

 

[Ragman2000]

Virginia is also ranked in the top 10

They won't be this time next week, but good point!

 

[Alsacs]

Virginia is also ranked in the top 10

I really hate these posts.
Because they are so disingenuous and don’t get the point from other threads.

Nobody is saying Michael Gbinine played too much.
Nobody is saying Hakim Warrick played too much.
Nobody is saying CJ Fair played too much.
Do you notice something about those players?

Here is a hint. They were all conference or all-American talent.

When we have upper level talent let them play no matter.
When we actually have some players on the bench that can play and the starters aren’t playing well omg fans actually want to see the bench play more. When the starters aren’t elite and aren’t playing well.

My god. What a take.

 

[RF2044]

No way! Those 2 coaches can't have that many sons...

You win the internet for today! LOL

 

[jgeorge322]

I really hate these posts.
Because they are so disingenuous and don’t get the point from other threads.

Nobody is saying Michael Gbinine played too much.
Nobody is saying Hakim Warrick played too much.
Nobody is saying CJ Fair played too much.
Do you notice something about those players?

Here is a hint. They were all conference or all-American talent.

When we have upper level talent let them play no matter.
When we actually have some players on the bench that can play and the starters aren’t playing well omg fans actually want to see the bench play more. When the starters aren’t elite and aren’t playing well.

My god. What a take.

Really is the finest example of a false equivalency.

 

[OrangeDW]

I really hate these posts.
Because they are so disingenuous and don’t get the point from other threads.

Nobody is saying Michael Gbinine played too much.
Nobody is saying Hakim Warrick played too much.
Nobody is saying CJ Fair played too much.
Do you notice something about those players?

Here is a hint. They were all conference or all-American talent.

When we have upper level talent let them play no matter.
When we actually have some players on the bench that can play and the starters aren’t playing well omg fans actually want to see the bench play more. When the starters aren’t elite and aren’t playing well.

My god. What a take.

Yes, agreed.

Though the other part is, when our bench stinks like last year I have no problem playing the starters almost all the minutes either.

This year isn’t really either one of those situations. Quincy is the only guy approaching those guys you named on a consistent basis. Griffin on certain nights.

And at least a few of our bench guys have shown they don’t stink.

 

[kuethstheman]

Aside from how good the players are that are playing the high minutes, what about player development? This would imply that Virginia isn't trying to develop their bench. The mark of a defective coach.

And then, there's the problem of players tiring out at the end of games.

I don't care about any of it but I'd say it's disingenuous to forget about those complaints.

 

[Halfmooncuse]

JB is coach for 40 minutes a game. We need a backup for at least 10 minutes. (With a JB approved face mask!).

 

[dasher]

Yes, agreed.

Though the other part is, when our bench stinks like last year I have no problem playing the starters almost all the minutes either.

This year isn’t really either one of those situations. Quincy is the only guy approaching those guys you named on a consistent basis. Griffin on certain nights.

And at least a few of our bench guys have shown they don’t stink.

Yet, people here demanded that Goodine and Carey should play. And they transfer and guess what, they aren't playing much on their new teams.

 

[Alsacs]

Yet, people here demanded that Goodine and Carey should play. And they transfer and guess what, they aren't playing much on their new teams.

This takes the point completely out of context.
We weren’t going to make the tournament last year.
Thus playing kids in conference games to develop them in the future to be contribute was the point.
Playing to continue the winning streak and barely better than .500 isn’t exactly the goal.
If those kids were leaving no matter what then not playing them was smart.
If they were ever going to be part of the rotation here. Playing them a little isn’t exactly the worst idea.

But your point totally incorporates that.
If we have kids who can play on the bench they should get a chance to show what they have.
When the starters aren’t exactly superstars who should have to play all the minutes.

If you have an all-conference talent you play them the whole game.
Practice isn’t the only way to develop talent.
Kids don’t want to sit more than one year.

 

[Scooch]

Virg had 4 guys play almost 35 min each last game and 1 guy play almost all the rest.. really only played 7.. no way..

only SU does that according to board experts.

GT had 40/39/38/37/26 and 2 played 20.. only played 7 guys.

what.,,,

That is a mighty fine strawman you built there.

 

[DoctorBombay]

I really hate these posts.
Because they are so disingenuous and don’t get the point from other threads.

Nobody is saying Michael Gbinine played too much.
Nobody is saying Hakim Warrick played too much.
Nobody is saying CJ Fair played too much.
Do you notice something about those players?

Here is a hint. They were all conference or all-American talent.

When we have upper level talent let them play no matter.
When we actually have some players on the bench that can play and the starters aren’t playing well omg fans actually want to see the bench play more. When the starters aren’t elite and aren’t playing well.

My god. What a take.

Its frustrating as hell with some specious, strawman arguments being thrown out there to cloud the issue.
"Boy, you must really hate JB and Buddy to suggest that he shouldn't be playing so much".
Or; "Hell, the bench sucked last year so that's why BB played so much. This year they're (fill-in-blank) and that's why the PT is so lopsided".
Or; "The man is a HOF'er, what have you done? Why do you want SU to lose? Why do you hate SU...and apple pie...and 'Murika"??? Sheesh.

 

[GooseMutt]

Best players playing best should play. That’s what rotations are about. Go Cuse! You got this!

 

[CousCuse]

Its frustrating as hell with some specious, strawman arguments being thrown out there to cloud the issue.
"Boy, you must really hate JB and Buddy to suggest that he shouldn't be playing so much".
Or; "Hell, the bench sucked last year so that's why BB played so much. This year they're (fill-in-blank) and that's why the PT is so lopsided".
Or; "The man is a HOF'er, what have you done? Why do you want SU to lose? Why do you hate SU...and apple pie...and 'Murika"??? Sheesh.

This year Buddy is playing a lot, right now, because he has missed 7 weeks of practices and hasn't played in many games with his team mates at this point of the season. Makes your diatribe seem more legitimate than someone just having their medulla oblongata go haywire.

 

[malpearl31]

Virg had 4 guys play almost 35 min each last game and 1 guy play almost all the rest.. really only played 7.. no way..

only SU does that according to board experts.

GT had 40/39/38/37/26 and 2 played 20.. only played 7 guys.

what.,,,

Bennett hasn't been a coach that relies on his bench all that much in recent years. Going back to 2016 (when we beat them in the Elite 8 to go to the Final Four), here is how Virginia has ranked in bench minutes each season:

• 2015-16 - 31.8% of available minutes to the bench - ranked 204th out of 351 D-1 teams
• 2016-17 - 37.9% of available minutes to the bench - ranked 46th out of 351 D-1 teams
• 2017-18 - 29.0% of available minutes to the bench - ranked 237th out of 351 D-1 teams
• 2018-19 - 22.9% of available minutes to the bench - ranked 317th out of 353 D-1 teams
• 2019-20 - 22.5% of available minutes to the bench - ranked 322nd out of 353 D-1 teams
• 2020-21 - 25.8% of available minutes to the bench - ranked 294th out of 347 D-1 teams

I think TB doesn't go very deep in part because their pace of play is so slow.

 

[OrangeDW]

This year Buddy is playing a lot, right now, because he has missed 7 weeks of practices and hasn't played in many games with his team mates at this point of the season. Makes your diatribe seem more legitimate than someone just having their medulla oblongata go haywire.

So Woody doesn’t play at all anymore because he missed a lot of practice, but Buddy plays MORE because he missed a lot of practice.

You’re just saying things.

 

[cliftonparksufan]

This takes the point completely out of context.
We weren’t going to make the tournament last year.
Thus playing kids in conference games to develop them in the future to be contribute was the point.
Playing to continue the winning streak and barely better than .500 isn’t exactly the goal.
If those kids were leaving no matter what then not playing them was smart.
If they were ever going to be part of the rotation here. Playing them a little isn’t exactly the worst idea.

But your point totally incorporates that.
If we have kids who can play on the bench they should get a chance to show what they have.
When the starters aren’t exactly superstars who should have to play all the minutes.

If you have an all-conference talent you play them the whole game.
Practice isn’t the only way to develop talent.
Kids don’t want to sit more than one year.

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Everything is hypothetical and conjecture unless you walk in the size 12 shoes of James Arthur Boeheim.

 

[Brooky03]

Its frustrating as hell with some specious, strawman arguments being thrown out there to cloud the issue.
"Boy, you must really hate JB and Buddy to suggest that he shouldn't be playing so much".
Or; "Hell, the bench sucked last year so that's why BB played so much. This year they're (fill-in-blank) and that's why the PT is so lopsided".
Or; "The man is a HOF'er, what have you done? Why do you want SU to lose? Why do you hate SU...and apple pie...and 'Murika"??? Sheesh.

They certainly cut both ways.

 

[CardiacCuse]

The transfer portal's increased significance also factors in here.

Player development and loyalty are less important when you can just pick up a griffin etc much more easily than in the past. Also, unless you are really playing a player a lot of minutes, the chances they might leave are now higher a la goodine, carey, washington etc...so investing in those end of the bench options is now a double-edged sword...you might show just enough of them to get noticed by another team or have more options come knocking...

there's less incentive now to look beyonf the current season. cant blame the coaches if so...after losing guys like ennis, etc that they didnt expect to leave and having to deal with earlier than expected departures...player development seems riskier in the current environment of the sport than perhaps ever before.

all that said...do i think the rotation should be deepr?

yes...i think the bench players can help this team this year

 

[CuseFaninVT]

This year Buddy is playing a lot, right now, because he has missed 7 weeks of practices and hasn't played in many games with his team mates at this point of the season. Makes your diatribe seem more legitimate than someone just having their medulla oblongata go haywire.

How you feeling now Polly?

 

[NineOneSeven]

I don’t care if every single other coach in d1 did it too. Doesn’t change my opinion with regards to the team I watch this year.

Dumb idiots still punt the ball at the 40 with 5 yards to gain too.

 

[Gotothehole]

Don’t see how anyone can defend this anymore. Is the AD alive? If he is he has to act

 

[SaltLakeOrange]

This year Buddy is playing a lot, right now, because he has missed 7 weeks of practices and hasn't played in many games with his team mates at this point of the season. Makes your diatribe seem more legitimate than someone just having their medulla oblongata go haywire.

Really? The whole team missed practices and games. But Buddy needs to shoot himself straight. How’d that work out tonight? 4-13 FG and 1-8 from 3. That’s 5/21 or about 25% composite.