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Message: [QUOTE="sufandu, post: 4116203, member: 874"] The diminishing athleticism is an interesting topic. There were a number of us that were frustrated when we had players with athleticism that lacked skill. We had a number of those that either left before they had an impact or just never developed. Those teams had our traditionally good defense but were bad on offense, especially in the halfcourt. Some of us said we'd trade some atnleticism for more skill. It seems like we've now swung too far in that direction. Or maybe, more accurately, we've traded athleticism for just shooting at the expense of other skills like ball handing. Regardless, JB just hasn't put the combination of necessary talent on the floor to win at the level he established so many years ago. It's sad. My apathy grows. I don't get the ACC network so I couldn't see the game last night, and I barely cared. [/QUOTE]